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Percent Native and Foreign Born

County Comparisons – Percent Native and Foreign Born

by Joe Swyers • 10/12/03

The percent native may be a factor to acceptance of outsiders. This was discussed on the "Which State" forums. It was thought that high percentages are good because the natives don't feel as threatened. Low percentages may indicate more likelihood of acceptance. The middle percentages may be the most stressful for both natives and newcomers.

The following table has percent native born, number born in each major section of the US and Americans born outside the US, and those who were foreigners. The last column is percent who are not yet naturalized citizens. Note: the "Northeast" is the greatest source of "non-natives". Massachusetts and New York may be the largest sources.

County% NativeCensusNativeNorth-
east
Mid-
west
SouthWestOutside
US
ForeignNot
Citizen
%
Alien
Rockingham27.7%277,35976,716162,8029,5249,9835,6632,28110,3904,5411.6%
Carroll37.6%43,66616,43821,6331,4971,8598713251,0434000.9%
Hillsborough44.2%380,841168,236144,63113,05815,6358,9934,49525,79315,3284.0%
Cheshire44.2%73,82532,65532,3932,5592,3531,6485721,6456960.9%
Grafton45.2%81,74336,96431,0133,6503,5632,6587043,1911,6642.0%
Strafford50.2%112,23356,31339,5783,9114,5902,7401,2883,8131,9821.8%
Sullivan52.6%40,45821,28314,7921,0351,2516862271,1845641.4%
Belknap53.2%56,32529,95419,9981,6411,8021,1373711,4226441.1%
Merrimack54.3%136,22574,00543,3614,7285,2843,4911,0054,3512,0931.5%
Coos66.4%33,11121,9947,8335668193532241,3224811.5%

The prior discussion on the "Which State" forums were at: Being an Unwelcome Presence and Population, Activists, "Overall Access"

Percent native born - lower number is better for newcomers

Being under 45% is very important. Coloradans (and others) made a transition at that point. Newcomers were not welcome in local politics when the percentage of natives was over 50%.

Jason noted: "states that are mostly native may be most friendly to outsiders because they don't feel threatened, while states that are about half and half will have the most tension. States that are mostly non-native will again be friendly to outsiders."

Source of above data: www.state.nh.us/osp/sdc/sdcSF3.html

Housing Availability

County Comparisons - Housing Availability

by Joe Swyers • 10/12/03

The following tables have total housing units, number occupied, vacant, and what sort of vacancy according to the 2000 Census. Admittedly things have changed since. But this is a snapshot for comparison.

S.R.O = For Seasonal, Recreational, or Occasional Use

Numbers of housing units

County Total Units Owner
Occu-
pied Renter
Occu-
pied Total Vacant For Rent For Sale Only Rented
Sold
Vacant S.R.O. Use Mi-
grant
Work-
ers Other Vacant Total for Sale or Rent
Hillsborough 149,961 93,820 50,635 5,506 1,319 665 473 2,351 0 698 1,984
Rockingham 113,023 78,999 25,530 8,494 859 593 400 6,059 14 569 1,452
Merrimack 56,244 36,048 15,795 4,401 508 429 210 2,911 15 328 937
Grafton 43,729 21,687 9,911 12,131 381 445 198 10,583 4 520 826
Coos 19,623 9,925 4,036 5,662 477 299 165 4,176 2 543 776
Carroll 34,750 14,266 4,085 16,399 311 358 95 15,110 4 521 669
Strafford 45,539 27,426 15,155 2,958 384 265 74 1,905 0 330 649
Belknap 32,121 16,640 5,819 9,662 387 256 121 8,702 0 196 643
Cheshire 31,876 20,057 8,242 3,577 283 301 137 2,608 0 248 584
Sullivan 20,158 11,915 4,615 3,628 304 189 83 2,846 0 206 493

Numbers of housing units with percentages of total units

County Total Units Owner Occu-
pied Renter Occu-
pied Total Vacant For Rent For Sale Only Rented
Sold
Vacant S.R.O. Use Mi-
grant
Work-
ers Other Vacant Total for Sale or Rent
Coos 19,623 50.58% 20.57% 28.85% 2.43% 1.52% 0.84% 21.28% 0.01% 2.77% 3.95%
Sullivan 20,158 59.11% 22.89% 18.00% 1.51% 0.94% 0.41% 14.12% 0.00% 1.02% 2.45%
Belknap 32,121 51.80% 18.12% 30.08% 1.20% 0.80% 0.38% 27.09% 0.00% 0.61% 2.00%
Carroll 34,750 41.05% 11.76% 47.19% 0.89% 1.03% 0.27% 43.48% 0.01% 1.50% 1.93%
Grafton 43,729 49.59% 22.66% 27.74% 0.87% 1.02% 0.45% 24.20% 0.01% 1.19% 1.89%
Cheshire 31,876 62.92% 25.86% 11.22% 0.89% 0.94% 0.43% 8.18% 0.00% 0.78% 1.83%
Merrimack 56,244 64.09% 28.08% 7.82% 0.90% 0.76% 0.37% 5.18% 0.03% 0.58% 1.67%
Strafford 45,539 60.23% 33.28% 6.50% 0.84% 0.58% 0.16% 4.18% 0.00% 0.72% 1.43%
Hillsborough 149,961 62.56% 33.77% 3.67% 0.88% 0.44% 0.32% 1.57% 0.00% 0.47% 1.32%
Rockingham 113,023 69.90% 22.59% 7.52% 0.76% 0.52% 0.35% 5.36% 0.01% 0.50% 1.28%

Educational Attainment

County Comparisons – Educational Attainment

by Joe Swyers • 10/12/03

In the following I did not rank the counties in any order other than alphabetical because it is a quandary as to which column to use for a ranking. A high school diploma, admittedly, does not indicate much "educational attainment" any more BUT it is a lot more than nothing or a "drop out".

Sullivan and Coos counties had the highest high school percentages of those with only a HS Diploma or equivalent, but they also had the lowest college attainment and the greatest rate of less than high school attainment.

The following table is educational attainment of people age 25 or over expressed as percentage of that population (not the total population).

(HS Grad is Diploma or Equivalent. "College" is some college or an Associate Degree)

CountyPOP
age 25+
0-8th9th-12thHS Grad.CollegeBachelorsMasters+
Belknap39,2604.4%9.9%32.6%29.8%15.7%7.6%
Carroll31,5342.9%8.9%32.2%29.5%17.1%9.4%
Cheshire48,0324.0%9.8%34.4%25.2%17.2%9.4%
Coos23,4908.6%14.5%41.6%23.4%8.1%3.8%
Grafton52,7953.7%8.6%31.0%24.0%18.4%14.2%
Hillsborough251,9084.3%8.7%27.5%29.4%20.0%10.1%
Merrimack91,2784.0%7.9%29.6%29.4%18.8%10.3%
Rockingham187,1722.5%7.1%28.6%30.2%21.1%10.6%
Strafford70,3194.6%9.0%30.4%29.5%16.9%9.5%
Sullivan28,1995.5%11.5%38.5%24.8%12.4%7.3%

The following table has more detail than the above.
(HS Grad is Diploma or Equivalent. "College" is some college but no degree. "Prof." is a professional degree.)

CountyPOP
age 25+
NoneK to
4th
5th-
8th
9th-
12th
HS
Grad.
Coll-
ege
Asso-
ciate
Bach-
elors
Mas-
ters
Prof.Doc-
torate
Belknap39,2600.4%0.2%3.8%9.9%32.6%21.5%8.3%15.7%5.5%1.5%0.6%
Carroll31,5340.2%0.1%2.6%8.9%32.2%20.4%9.1%17.1%7.0%1.3%1.1%
Cheshire48,0320.3%0.1%3.6%9.8%34.4%18.6%6.6%17.2%6.6%1.6%1.2%
Coos23,4900.4%0.2%8.0%14.5%41.6%15.3%8.1%8.1%2.7%0.8%0.3%
Grafton52,7950.2%0.2%3.3%8.6%31.0%16.9%7.1%18.4%8.4%2.8%3.0%
Hillsborough251,9080.5%0.2%3.6%8.7%27.5%20.3%9.1%20.0%7.6%1.6%0.8%
Merrimack91,2780.4%0.2%3.4%7.9%29.6%20.6%8.8%18.8%7.1%2.5%0.8%
Rockingham187,1720.3%0.0%2.1%7.1%28.6%20.7%9.5%21.1%8.2%1.5%0.8%
Strafford70,3190.3%0.1%4.2%9.0%30.4%20.5%9.0%16.9%6.5%1.6%1.5%
Sullivan28,1990.3%0.1%5.1%11.5%38.5%18.2%6.6%12.4%5.0%1.6%0.8%

Source: www.state.nh.us/osp/sdc/sdcSF3.html

Government Employees

County Comparisons – Government Employees

by Joe Swyers • 10/12/03

The following tables are the employees in the major sectors and, most importantly, the number or percentages of government employees.

Number of employees (or self-employed) in each sector

CountyTotalPvt for
profit
Pvt No
profit
Self
Empl.
Unpaid
family
Local
Gov't
State
Gov't
Fed
Gov't
Total
Gov't
Coos15,68610,6701,3131,116301,4667942972,557
Sullivan20,48313,8601,9191,974841,8544603322,646
Carroll21,41813,8741,6873,093951,8664383652,669
Belknap28,84819,0622,2392,9891542,4641,5204204,404
Cheshire38,06526,6913,3253,268633,0361,1355474,718
Grafton42,32925,2727,1933,9341043,2521,5829925,826
Strafford59,53442,6744,2113,5391214,0403,1281,8218,989
Merrimack70,85145,9727,0795,4372385,5265,3311,26812,125
Rockingham151,291112,2249,40211,60932110,1043,7053,92617,735
Hillsborough202,366153,55114,35712,56129512,9993,4655,13821,602

% of employees (or self-employed) in each sector

COUNTYTotalPvt for
profit
Pvt No
profit
Self
Empl.
Unpaid
family
Local
Gov't
State
Gov't
Fed
Gov't
Total
Gov't
Hillsborough202,36675.9%7.1%6.2%0.1%6.4%1.7%2.5%10.7%
Rockingham151,29174.2%6.2%7.7%0.2%6.7%2.4%2.6%11.7%
Cheshire38,06570.1%8.7%8.6%0.2%8.0%3.0%1.4%12.4%
Carroll21,41864.8%7.9%14.4%0.4%8.7%2.0%1.7%12.5%
Sullivan20,48367.7%9.4%9.6%0.4%9.1%2.2%1.6%12.9%
Grafton42,32959.7%17.0%9.3%0.2%7.7%3.7%2.3%13.8%
Strafford59,53471.7%7.1%5.9%0.2%6.8%5.3%3.1%15.1%
Belknap28,84866.1%7.8%10.4%0.5%8.5%5.3%1.5%15.3%
Coos15,68668.0%8.4%7.1%0.2%9.3%5.1%1.9%16.3%
Merrimack70,85164.9%10.0%7.7%0.3%7.8%7.5%1.8%17.1%

Source: www.state.nh.us/osp/sdc/sdcSF3.html

Heating Fuels Used

County Comparisons – Heating Fuels Used

by Joe Swyers • 10/12/03

People moving to New England may be in for a surprise regarding heating fuels if they are used to being on natural gas utility lines. Except for Hillsborough county, most of New Hampshire uses fuel oil or kerosine.

Heating Fuel for Occupied Units

CountyTotal UnitsUtility GasBottled, Tank, LP GasElec-
tricity
Fuel Oil, Kerosine, etc.Coal or CokeWoodSolar EnergyOther FuelNo Fuel Used
Belknap22,4591,6592,5401,25515,745471,076127055
Carroll18,3511973,2841,29411,722251,76163428
Cheshire28,2998412,2511,64820,6561472,5681210769
Coos13,9611650024812,231169110309
Grafton31,5984874,5802,60820,768422,9501111537
Hillsborough144,45551,45513,69711,25163,4552263,16729822353
Merrimack51,84311,2195,9484,72726,854692,5252638788
Rockingham104,52914,25111,4919,31165,9472452,62979457119
Strafford42,5816,9044,0013,25826,999341,166212097
Sullivan16,5302582,53162311,450221,473312149

Heating Fuel for Occupied Units
(The above table but with percentages of total units)

CountyTotal UnitsUtility GasBottled, Tank, LP GasElec-
tricity
Fuel Oil, Kerosine, etc.Coal or CokeWoodSolar EnergyOther FuelNo Fuel Used
Belknap22,4597.39%11.31%5.59%70.11%0.21%4.79%0.05%0.31%0.24%
Carroll18,3511.07%17.90%7.05%63.88%0.14%9.60%0.03%0.19%0.15%
Cheshire28,2992.97%7.95%5.82%72.99%0.52%9.07%0.04%0.38%0.24%
Coos13,9610.11%3.58%1.78%87.61%0.11%6.53%0.00%0.21%0.06%
Grafton31,5981.54%14.49%8.25%65.73%0.13%9.34%0.03%0.36%0.12%
Hillsborough144,45535.62%9.48%7.79%43.93%0.16%2.19%0.02%0.57%0.24%
Merrimack51,84321.64%11.47%9.12%51.80%0.13%4.87%0.05%0.75%0.17%
Rockingham104,52913.63%10.99%8.91%63.09%0.23%2.52%0.08%0.44%0.11%
Strafford42,58116.21%9.40%7.65%63.41%0.08%2.74%0.00%0.28%0.23%
Sullivan16,5301.56%15.31%3.77%69.27%0.13%8.91%0.02%0.73%0.30%

Housing

County Comparisons – Housing

by Joe Swyers • 10/12/03

  1. Real Estate Taxes
    (Owner-Occupied Housing Units)

    CountyMedianAverage# of units
    Coos$1,750 $1,807 6,648
    Carroll$1,831 $2,129 10,248
    Belknap$2,360 $2,604 11,943
    Sullivan$2,414 $2,538 7,798
    Grafton$2,458 $2,777 14,515
    Strafford$2,741 $2,965 19,570
    Cheshire$2,745 $2,905 14,350
    Merrimack$2,866 $3,024 26,262
    Hillsborough$3,251 $3,370 75,683
    Rockingham$3,375 $3,517 62,328

  2. Real Estate Taxes vs. Value
    (Owner-Occupied Housing Units)

    CountyAverage
    tax
    Average
    value
    Tax %
    of value
    Carroll$2,129 160,5341.33%
    Rockingham$3,517 185,7481.89%
    Belknap$2,604 132,4551.97%
    Grafton$2,777 138,5162.00%
    Hillsborough$3,370 154,8772.18%
    Sullivan$2,538 114,4512.22%
    Coos$1,807 81,3162.22%
    Merrimack$3,024 134,8892.24%
    Strafford$2,965 127,0412.33%
    Cheshire$2,905 123,7132.35%

  3. House values vs. Household incomes and Gross Rent vs. Household incomes. The data source has median and average household income of rental units and the median and average household income of homeowners. Thus the house values are compared to homeowner incomes and gross rents are compared to tenant incomes.

    Least Expensive Houses, as percentage of income, are in Coos and Sullivan counties. House value, as percentage of median incomes ranges from 173% in Coos county to 240% in Rockingham county and 269% in Carroll county.

    1. Median House Value as % of Income
      (House Value of Owner Occupied homes)

      CountyMedian
      House$
      % of
      Income
      Average
      House$
      % of
      Income
      Coos$69,300173%$81,316178%
      Sullivan$89,600189%$114,451197%
      Merrimack$115,100201%$134,889196%
      Hillsborough$135,500206%$154,877197%
      Cheshire$104,100207%$123,713206%
      Strafford$112,100208%$127,041203%
      Belknap$104,100208%$132,455210%
      Grafton$106,000212%$138,516218%
      Rockingham$158,300240%$185,748238%
      Carroll$117,800269%$160,534285%

    2. Median Homeowner Income as % of House Value
      (Household Income of Owner Occupied homes)

      CountyMedian
      Income
      % of
      House$
      Average
      Income
      % of
      House$
      Coos$40,03658%$45,58956%
      Sullivan$47,28453%$58,12151%
      Merrimack$57,15850%$68,68551%
      Hillsborough$65,93449%$78,59551%
      Cheshire$50,17948%$60,10749%
      Strafford$53,93148%$62,59849%
      Belknap$50,06748%$63,21348%
      Grafton$49,95047%$63,41046%
      Rockingham$66,03942%$78,05642%
      Carroll$43,73037%$56,36435%

      Income in rental units is much lower in all the counties. BUT rental costs are more in line with incomes in all counties - only ranging from 23.2% to 25.8% of median incomes. Note that, for renters looking to buy a house, the hurdle (from income as percent of rent to percent of house value) is much greater in Rockingham and Carroll counties. Though incomes in Coos county are much lower than, for instance, in Rockingham county, the housing costs are also much lower ($399 to rent versus $717 and $69,300 to own versus $158,300). Least Expensive Rents, as percentage of median income, are marginally lower in Rockingham and Coos counties. As percentage of average income, the lowest are in Coos and Sullivan counties.

    3. Median Gross Rent as % of Tenant Income
      (Gross Monthly Rent of Tenant Occupied homes)

      CountyMedian
      Rent
      % of
      Income
      Average
      Rent
      % of
      Income
      Rockingham$71723.2%$71419.3%
      Coos$39923.4%$38017.4%
      Carroll$55223.6%$52219.2%
      Merrimack$61324.4%$60019.3%
      Strafford$62324.5%$61621.1%
      Hillsborough$69424.5%$69120.2%
      Sullivan$53724.5%$52518.8%
      Grafton$56024.6%$56419.9%
      Belknap$58825.0%$55519.5%
      Cheshire$59625.8%$56520.2%

    4. Median Tenant Income as % of Gross Rent
      (Household Income of Tenant Occupied homes)

      CountyMedian
      Income
      % of
      Rent
      Average
      Income
      % of
      Rent
      Rockingham$37,036430%$44,360518%
      Coos$20,504428%$26,146573%
      Carroll$28,063424%$32,670522%
      Merrimack$30,177410%$37,218517%
      Strafford$30,561409%$34,962473%
      Hillsborough$33,939408%$40,949494%
      Sullivan$26,255407%$33,573533%
      Grafton$27,312406%$33,933501%
      Belknap$28,243400%$34,231514%
      Cheshire$27,714388%$33,645496%

Source: www.state.nh.us/osp/sdc/sdcSF3.html. The source quotes gross rent by the month but for the above tables the annual rent was used to calculate the percentages.

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County Comparisons

County Comparisons

by Joe Swyers • 10/03

In October, 2003 Joe Swyers posted on the forum a series of reports comparing NH counties in various aspects. Those reports are reproduced here, with Joe's permission:

Western Information

Western Information

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Real estate

We looked at a lot of towns and real estate in the western portion of the state.  Generally speaking the areas west of the 3 corridor and south of I-89 are somewhat less expensive than the areas around the bigger cities and in the southeast part of the state.  With the exception of Keene, that area of the state is made up of scattered small towns.

Land:

Milford - $99,900, 2.13 ac on Maple Street.  This lot is in Milford but reportedly has Wilton water (and sewer?).  It is near the border.  The area it is in is near a factory and is not overly attractive, though not overly ugly.  It is on a hill which overlooks the factory and the river.  The high prices is presumably because of it's proximity to Nashua (drive time roughly 30 minutes).

Hillsborough - $8000 ~ $25000, .25 - 1 ac lots in Emerald Lake Development.  These lots are numerous and listed at inexpensive sale prices.  They are in a community with an association, private dirt roads, a private water system, and lake access (with some facilities).  The lots are smallish and the houses are a mix ranging from reasonably nice but not large to rather trashy (in our opinion anyway).  I suspect the people are perfectly nice and you could have an inexpensive home there but it's not the kind of place I would choose to live.

Hillsborough ~$40,000+, 2+ acre lots on Mary Rowe.  These lots are near but outside the Emerald Lake District on paved public roads.  The surrounding houses are much nicer (several brand new colonials) and the lots are substantially bigger. 

Hillsborough ~ $40,000+, 2± acre lots on Sawmill.  These lots are heavily wooded and (according to MLS) back up to a river (stream, whatever).  The neighborhood has a slightly rural feeling to it (lot sizes in the 2-5 acre range I'd guess) but it is near town. 

Tilton - $65,000, 5-7 acre lots on Calef Hill.  These lots are just a few minutes from town on a nice street with primarily nice newer houses.  These are the kind of lots that an upper middle class family with a larger (2200-2500 sq. ft.) house would be very comfortable on.  They are near a middle school and relatively close to shopping (I'd say 10 minutes or so from Wal-Mart, outlet mall, fast food, etc.).

We didn't have time to look at houses in the western part of the state.  We also essentially didn't do any actually 'shopping' in Concord.  Other lots are available in other towns and that information is readily available from the MLS.  General information about the areas is below.

Commerce and Restaurants

Concord is the capital city of New Hampshire (population 41,000) and is home to pretty much every kind of store and restaurant you would need or want.  The downtown area has small boutique type shops and restaurants and there are department stores, malls, etc.  Concord has high speed Internet access and cell phone service.

Tilton is a small town (3,500 people) but has remarkably good shopping and eating for a town its size.  It is home to the outlet mall which features 50 manufacturers outlet stores with all kinds of goods.  There is also a super Wal-Mart, Staples, Shaw's (grocery store), an Applebees, KFC, Wendy's, McDonald's, Burger King, the Tilton Diner, Subway, and several other things I've probably forgotten by now.  There is also a 'downtown' area in Tilton that has some smaller shops but it's not as large as Keene's or certainly Concord's.  I don't know if there is high speed Internet access in Tilton but my T-Mobile cell phone works there.

Hillsborough is a town of 5100 people in a somewhat less accessible area of western New Hampshire.  There aren't many things there now but there is a shopping center under construction which, I believe, will feature a grocery store (probably a chain).  There's a McDonalds there but otherwise it's all local eating establishments.  There is a Ford dealership there and there is a Sylvania plant of some sort there (probably the big employer in the area).  I saw a Verizon Wireless store in Hillsborough but my T-Mobile phone did not work there.

Henniker is a small town and there's really not much there.  It's closer to Concord than Hillsborough so if you like small town life (no chain stores, etc.), that's probably a nice place for you to go. 

Hopkinton is close to 89 and is a very cute looking town.  I don't recall there being much there in the way of shopping or eating but the town itself has nice homes and is attractive.

Franklin is west of Tilton and is decidedly more run down.  There are gas stations and what not but I didn't find any major stores or restaurants.

Weare and Goffstown are closer to Manchester (see drive times at the end of this page) and, I believe, are growing as a result of their proximity.  Unfortunately we didn't get to see either one of them in the light so I'm not exactly sure what's there. 

101 (and 101A) between Manchester and/or Nashua and Keene features many smaller towns (Milford, Wilton, Dublin, Peterborough, Marlboro, etc.).  None of them are very big.  Once you get a ways away from Nashua and/or Manchester the level of commercial creature comforts decreases considerably.  Cell service (at least T-mobile) on that route is spotty to non-existent west of Milford (or so) all the way until fairly close to Keene.

Churches

There are plenty of Churches around western New Hampshire.  Every town has at least one and larger towns may have several.  We didn't actually visit (i.e. get out of the car and/or actually go to a service) any except one in Peterborough.

Monadnock Congregational Church was recommended to us by Thom Simmons after we described generally what we normally look for in a church.  It is in Peterborough with is roughly half way (time wise) between Nashua and Keene on Highway 101.  We visited there on Sunday, November 9, for their 10:00 coffee and 10:30 service.  We drove that morning from Nashua and arrived right around 10:00.  Having driven by the day before we thought the church was fairly large (I estimated maybe between 200 and 300).  However, the whole building the church is in is not occupied solely by the church.  Part of it that looked like classrooms is actually other businesses (a hair salon, for example). 

The parking in the front is deceivingly small.  Most of the people park in the back of the building and there's a back door there.  I would estimate the main sanctuary seats as many as 200 and I'm guessing there might have been 125 to 150 there that morning.  We began by going downstairs where they have coffee and socialize prior to the service.  We were warmly greeted and the people there introduced themselves and then to the others around them. 

There demographics were a bit spotty.  It didn't look like there were many 20's singles and couples there or many late 40's to late 50's people.  There seemed to be a split mostly between 30's-40's couples with children (and, hence, their young through teenage children), and roughly retirement plus people.

The service began with music which was a combination of songs from a hymnal and a couple of contemporary choruses.  The singing was only accompanied by a piano (one song later in the service they traded the piano for a guitar).  There was a small choir and one soloist who was quite good.  There was also a drama near the beginning of the service.  It was well done and one of the actors in particular was quite funny.

The church is going through the 40 Days of Purpose series put together by Rick Warren of Saddleback Church in southern California (a somewhat larger church ;).  A couple of people in the church mentioned that the church has been going through 'a time of transition' which we deduced (from other comments) meant growth.  There was some implication that the growth was caused partly by doing the 40 Days of Purpose series but I didn't press for statistics (it'd be a small sample anyhow).  The message was delivered by Pastor Tim Jantos who did a fine job.  It was well presented, good material, and nothing stuck out that would raise any big red flags for either of us. 

The church had what I would call a small church feel.  I suspect the people there might consider it a larger church feel but it seemed as though everyone knew each other and would be happy to accept more people into their group. 

Based on our two church attending experiences, we believe it'd be possible for us to find an environment to fit into in New Hampshire but it will not be what we're used to.  I didn't get enough of a feel from this experience (or our time at Grace Fellowship in Nashua) to know if the people there in New Hampshire would be open to significant 'outside' influence in their churches.  For those of us desiring a strong arts program, we may have a more difficult time finding the right fit.

Other

Drive times for some of the towns in Western NH are listed on the statewide page.  The roads in the western portion of NH are mostly good but mostly 2-lane.  Navigating with a good map was not particularly difficult as most of the 2-lane roads do have some sort of signs indicating what they are (as opposed to some streets in towns which are not marked well).

We visited a lot of towns, some of which were simply drive-by's.  Probably the best I can do is just summarize the 'look and feel' of each one here.

Concord

Concord is a short drive (15 minutes or so) north of Manchester on I-93 which is a toll road between Manchester and Concord.  At the south end of town, I-89 splits off and goes northwest.  I-93 continue through town and to point north.  The town is larger (over 40,000 people) and, as a result, has most any creature comfort a person could need.  The downtown area has shops and is near the capital.  We ate in Concord a couple of times at fast food restaurants and a Chinese Buffet.  We didn't spend a lot of time there but it seems as though that would be a nice town to live in, particularly if you wanted to be near the government center of New Hampshire for some reason.

Tilton

Tilton is a small town right on I-93 about 20 minutes north of Concord.  It is in the lakes region tourist area and, as a result, is home to the outlet mall.  As mentioned elsewhere, it is also home to a seemingly disproportionate amount of creature comfort for its size (Wal-Mart, every kind of fast food imaginable, etc.).  The new commercial 'area' (Wal-Mart, etc.) is right at exit 20 and the town of Tilton itself is a bit west of there.  The 'town' has its own feel which is more similar to the other small towns in western New Hampshire.  Housing is somewhat less expensive than in Manchester (or certainly Nashua) but there are some places that are  less expensive yet.  We drove around Tilton on a couple of occasions and it seemed like the kind of place we could enjoy living, though it's on the small side for our taste.

Franklin

Franklin is the next town west of Tilton and is not nearly as nice.  The main street is older and many of the homes are not well kept at all.  Housing prices are somewhat less expensive than Tilton though it's not that far away (maybe 10 minutes).  We drove around a couple neighborhoods and they seemed 'spotty' where some houses would be nicer but mixed in with very unkept places. 

Hopkinton

We only drove through Hopkinton briefly but out impression was that it was a very nice, probably somewhat upscale town.  We didn't check real estate prices but my observation of the housing there would lead me to believe it would be a little more expensive than Tilton, maybe even closer to Concord though somewhat more remote.  If I recall correctly, there may have been a McDonald's there but mostly it seemed like a quiet residential town with well kept nicer homes.

Henniker

We only saw Henniker in the dark (unfortunately).  The town is south of highway 202 a bit and is home to a college (whose name I can't recall now).  There is a river that runs through town and a few shops but no significant commercial area.  There's not even a McDonalds that we could find, though there is a nice new gas station / convenience store right at the highway, along with what appeared to be a newer shopping center of some sort with (I think) a hardware store.  We weren't able to really figure out the atmosphere but it didn't seem like the typical college town to me.

Hillsborough

We spent a little bit of time in Hillsborough mainly because of the attractive land prices there.  The highway has been moved within the last year or so and, as a result, our map was incorrect.  The highway is two lane all the way to I-89, however, it is wide and nice and the traffic moved right along.  What I believe to be the main exit spits you out right at the McDonalds.  There is a brand new shopping center under construction which I think will probably feature a supermarket of some sort.

The look and feel of the town seems like a 'mix' to me, but I didn't find any decidedly upper middle class area.  The closest I found would be near (but not in) the Emerald Lake development on Mary Rowe and surrounding roads.  There were several brand new homes there, some of which are for sale and there are lots available for under $50,000.  There's nothing right around there, though, in the way of shopping.  It's probably a 10 minute drive from there to the McDonalds.  Overall, we felt that Hillsborough could be a consideration at that price if it were closer to better shopping and other amenities.

Weare and Goffstown

Unfortunately, we didn't get a good look at Weare or Goffstown while we were there as it was dark the only time we drove through.  We weren't taking notes at the time but based on my recollection, they were both normal (average?) western New Hampshire towns, though somewhat closer (time wise) to Manchester than those listed above.  If we hadn't toured Keene and the Lebanon area, we may have gone back for a second look, but we simply didn't have time.

Milford and Wilton

Milford and Wilton are both west of Nashua on 101A/101.  Neither one of them stuck out as particularly nice though their proximity to Nashua would be a plus, particularly for Milford.  They did seem to have more creature comforts than some of the smaller towns to the north (Henniker, or Hopkinton, for example), but I didn't see any 'big' chain stores in either town.  Because of their proximity to Nashua, property is a bit more expensive there than we thought it should be.

Peterborough, Dublin and other towns on 101 between Keene and Manchester

There are a number of other small towns between Keene and Manchester and I won't list them all by name.  A couple that stuck out as nicer were Peterborough and Dublin which are near an area with several lakes and some nice hills (you couldn't get away with calling them mountains in California).  Generally speaking, though, they are typical New England small towns and don't have the kinds of larger town features a place like Keene or Nashua would have.  If you enjoy small town living and want something nicer and within commuting distance of Nashua or Manchester, the towns between Wilton and Keene might be of interest.  The closer to Keene, the more time it would take to commute (of course), but Keene, itself, is only about 1 hour 15 minutes in good weather from Manchester so if that commute time is acceptable, I could recommend looking there also (Keene has its own page here).


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Lebanon area Information

Lebanon area Information

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Real estate

Real estate in the Lebanon area (including Hanover and Enfield) is generally cheaper than the more populated southeast part of the state, however Hanover itself is a little more expensive.  I would estimate the prices in Lebanon at comparable to Keene and in Enfield at slightly less.  While we were in the area we looked at land in Enfield as well as houses in Enfield and Lebanon.  Here's a sampling:

Land:

Enfield - $37,900, 2.25 ac. on Shaker Hill Road.  This plot is near 4A on Shaker Hill Road.  The commute is easy to I-89 (10 minutes or so).  The lot is wooded and not exactly level, but not overly hilly. 

Enfield - $39,900, 13.7 ac. on 4A.  This plot is very near the above plot and is also an easy commute to I-89 (about 10 minutes).  This piece of land has ROW access (it's currently a gravel driveway) off of 4A.  The land is heavily wooded and hilly. 

Homes:

Enfield - $280,000, 4 bed / 3 1/2 bath / 8 room, on Fitzgerald Dr.  This home is on a nice street.  It was built in 1989 and looks reasonably new.  It has a finished basement and is just a few minutes from 4A (near the above land listings).  It is listed for $280,000.

West Lebanon - $229,000, 6 bed / 2 1/2 bath / 11 room, on Dana St.  This appears to be a two family home but could probably be converted back to single family use easily.  It's in a very convenient location (right near the bridge to Vermont) and is in a decent (though certainly not upscale by any means) area with some houses and shopping.  It has a detached three-car garage (or so it appeared).  It looks to be fairly large, and was probably built in the early 1900's.

Commerce and Restaurants

One of the big advantages of the Lebanon area is the shopping available.  While Lebanon itself is lower in population than Keene, the combination of Lebanon, Hanover, Enfield and the people on the Vermont side of the river (as well as other surrounding communities) gives it a larger commercial base than Keene.  As a result, we saw a couple of things there that we didn't find in Keene.  Most notable was a Best Buy, a discount-club warehouse type place (ala Sam's Club / Costco / etc.), and a Denny's. 

The Dartmouth area (Hanover) also features a nifty downtown area that has a distinctive college feel to it.  There is also a fantastic medical facility in the area (the Dartmouth Hitchcock Medical Center).  There is a movie theater in Lebanon, though it looked smallish like Keene's. 

Specific shopping places we saw:  Wal-Mart, JCPenny, Sears, Shaw's (grocery store), Best Buy, Staples, Borders, Payless Shoes, and the UPS store.  In other words, with the addition of Best Buy (and the warehouse place), Lebanon and Keene are nearly identical.  There is also the Powerhouse Mall (or maybe it was Powerhouse Mill Mall).  We didn't go in, but it appears to be similar to the Colony Mill Marketplace in Keene, though maybe not as upscale.

Tmobile cellular service ends northeast of Concord on I-89 and does not ever pick up again.  There is no Tmobile service in the Lebanon area, however we did see several stores offering cellular service there so I presume some other carriers have service there.  I do not know if high speed Internet access is available but I assume it is.

Other

In many ways Lebanon reminded us of Keene, though a little more spread out.  The areas we looked at were really broken into 4 parts: Lebanon, West Lebanon, Hanover, and Enfield.  West Lebanon is predominantly shopping oriented with all the new store near the Vermont border (presumably to pick up business from Vermont's tax evaders).  Lebanon seems like a larger but fairly typical small town in Western New Hampshire.  Hanover is an upscale college town and it shows.  And finally Enfield is basically a big Shaker area around a lake which is nice but country feeling.  Of all the country 'towns' we visited, it was one of the nicer ones.  It also has relatively easy access to I-89, and the Lebanon area (10-15 minutes depending on where you're going). 

Drive times are listed on the statewide page.  We didn't experience any traffic or weather from Lebanon to Concord and I tend to drive a little on the fast side so the time listed from Lebanon to Manchester is less than from Keene to Concord, however, the mileage is more.  The road is all 4-lane or better which is an advantage over Keene, but I don't know how that affects winter driving.  On one hand, 4-lanes would appear to be a benefit from the 2-lane road from Keene to Manchester.  On the other hand, the mileage is more so unless there is a significant difference in speed, it may well be quicker from Keene to Manchester.  Also, for airport service, Keene also offers the option of Hartford, CT and Lebanon also offers the option of Burlington, VT.  Both are accessible primarily via interstate. 

While driving around Lebanon, we noticed several help-wanted signs.  We didn't notice a lot of them in other areas of the state.  This led me to believe that there may be more jobs available in the Lebanon area than elsewhere in the state.  The signs, however, were at establishments that may not pay stellar wages.  I didn't find out what the wage rates were, but if working a job or two for low wages is an option, I would recommend further investigating the Lebanon area.

While we were there the weather was absolutely beautiful (keep in mind, this was in November).  I understand, though, that the weather generally is not as nice in the Lebanon area as it is further south in the state, and particularly near the seacoast.

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