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Q & A with FSP early movers – 01/13/05
Here's a transcript of the chat that took place:
17:05:32 [RussellK] I see we have had some people come and go already
17:07:32 [katdillon] Howdy
17:07:38 [erich] Hi
17:07:53 [katdillon] how goes?
17:07:55 [erich] I see things are going a little slow here in the beginning.
17:07:59 [erich] well
17:08:26 [katdillon] We were a little late...watching The Manchurian Candidate
17:08:32 [RussellK] it always does
17:08:37 [erich] Hah!
17:08:53 [erich] I want to see that one, but seem to onle see about 2 new films a year.
17:08:56 [RussellK] we haven't gotten people use to the idea yet of our NH chats
17:09:14 [RussellK] we were watching the old version
17:09:37 [erich] Well, do you see most of the Granite Staters in person fairly often?
17:09:49 [katdillon] fairly often
17:10:02 [katdillon] we met last night, seeing people all weekend
17:10:10 [erich] Oh, well. I am looking forward to seeing how the new one measures up.
17:10:46 [erich] That is awesome. I cannot wait to get up there in March.
17:10:52 [katdillon] Haven't seen the new one yet
17:10:54 [erich] Especially to see people.
17:11:03 [RussellK] where are you moving to?
17:11:03 [katdillon] Cool
17:11:20 [erich] I went to the Liberty Dinner in June, as you may remember, Kat,
17:11:28 [erich] but did not really mingle that much.
17:11:33 [katdillon] Yep
17:11:46 [RussellK] so is this bluelu?
17:11:46 [erich] Oh, I will be up for the week
17:11:49 [erich] before town elections
17:11:58 [erich] just to help and to scope out property.
17:12:02 [katdillon] We'll have a huge TX contingent!
17:12:09 [RussellK] the guy that roped me into his schemes on the forum?
17:12:17 [erich] My current favorite town is Greenfield
17:12:26 [erich] just the other side of Peterborough from Keene
17:12:38 [erich] Shhhhh!
17:12:55 [erich] I did not think it was that schemy
17:13:06 [erich] Maybe someone has been posing as me.
17:13:10 [RussellK] I was too easy
17:13:24 [katdillon] I'll say
17:13:34 [erich] LOL
17:13:44 [erich] Have you ever heard about Don Gorman's talk?
17:13:46 [katdillon]
17:13:55 [erich] About any good that may have come out of it?
17:13:58 [katdillon] I didn't hear what happend, no
17:14:17 [katdillon] Did hear he was thinking of doing another one on the seacoast soon
17:14:23 [erich] K
17:14:45 [erich] I may have to go to help my wife do some A/V editing on her computer.
17:14:54 [erich] So, if I just stop responding. Please forgive
17:14:58 [katdillon] okie dokie
17:15:05 [katdillon] no problem
17:16:37 [RussellK] so Greenfield huh?
17:16:55 [erich] Dave Mincin seems to be getting a thing or two done.
17:17:03 [erich] speaking of the Seacoast
17:17:08 [katdillon] I went out to Greenfield to dance one night
17:17:10 [erich] Greeenfield. Yeah.
17:17:15 [katdillon] Dave's great
17:17:17 [erich] It just looked beautiful.
17:17:25 [katdillon] they have a contra dance there
17:17:28 [erich] Even the village center is very rural.
17:17:32 [katdillon] *nods*
17:17:36 [erich] Contras????
17:17:38 [RussellK] Dave Mincin is our archrival for incoming porcs
17:17:46 [erich] Oh, not like in El Salv...
17:17:50 [katdillon] Not terribly far from Peterborough
17:17:55 [katdillon] no
17:17:55 [erich] Oh wait, we figured thatone out.
17:18:14 [katdillon] kinda like old fashioned sqare dancing, but in a line
17:18:24 [erich] Well, I may sleep a night on his floor. I am trying to get an interview with a Portsmouth outfit.
17:18:49 [katdillon] Many people have spent the night on Dave's floor and lived to tell the tale
17:18:55 [erich] I looked it up, and found where they do it around here once a month, but they finish so late....
17:19:04 [erich] We pumpkinize early.
17:19:14 [katdillon] me too
17:19:18 [erich] I hear the smoke is thinner down there.
17:19:24 [erich] ...on Dave's floor.
17:19:31 [katdillon] lol
17:19:40 [erich] Just a joke. I used to smoke, and it really does not bother me.
17:20:01 [katdillon] Did you meet Dave?
17:20:25 [erich] We visited Dover and Portsmouth in June, and really liked it, but The Monadnock
17:20:35 [erich] countryside really beconed us.
17:20:42 [erich] I did NOT meet dave.
17:20:57 [erich] But, he offered good advice on where to stay and eat before we got there.
17:21:10 [katdillon] cool
17:21:21 [katdillon] he's a helpful sort
17:21:23 [erich] I asked the favor of a free space on his floor a few weeks ago, when I finalized plans to come in March.
17:21:44 [erich] At the time, I thought that all municipal elections were in March,
17:21:53 [katdillon] I think he likes the company
17:21:58 [erich] but that does not seem to be the case. It seems that the "Cities" are in Jan.
17:22:10 [erich] Like Keene, right????
17:22:14 [katdillon] We just found out that next march in keene will be the school board election
17:22:30 [katdillon] they were november
17:22:49 [erich] Oh, wow! I guess, each city chooses when city elections will be.
17:22:52 [erich] Back in minute.
17:22:55 [katdillon] A guy from the local school board came to our meeting last night
17:29:47 [RussellK] PatK to the rescue
17:30:15 [E_Clay10] hello
17:30:24 [RussellK] hello
17:30:25 [PatK] huh?
17:30:36 [RussellK] are you guys a little early for the FSP chat?
17:30:42 [PatK] hi all
17:30:50 [RussellK] hello
17:30:53 [PatK] yep
17:30:53 [erich] Do you know of any good candidates? I am still in search of work to do while I am in NH Mar. 1-8.
17:31:11 [E_Clay10] I would like to know if there are any Objectivists involved with FSP?
17:31:30 [RussellK] lots
17:31:42 [RussellK] and some that hate objectivits
17:31:46 [erich] Good to see you, Clay. I noticed your posts from Western MI today.
17:31:53 [RussellK] and some that don't know what that word means
17:32:13 [E_Clay10] thanx
17:32:15 [erich] I became a Rand fan at age 14.
17:32:30 [erich] Introduced by an unwitting public school English teacher.
17:32:30 [E_Clay10] actually southeastern MI
17:32:40 [E_Clay10] City of Westland
17:32:42 [erich] Yikes. My memory may be bad.
17:32:51 [erich] AHHHHH! I see.
17:33:04 [erich] "Wasteland" Yes.
17:33:11 [E_Clay10] near Detroit
17:33:20 [E_Clay10] yep
17:33:22 [PatK] I guess I would be a very small o objectivst
17:34:10 [E_Clay10] that's pronounced nihilist
17:34:23 [RussellK]
17:34:27 [erich] I have several friens near Detroit, but alas no Objectivists, nor libertarians.
17:34:36 [erich] LOL
17:34:42 [PatK] and there you go
17:34:49 [E_Clay10] me too
17:35:16 [E_Clay10] wish there was more
17:35:27 [erich] I can lay my hands on the Objectivists in central Texas, but
17:35:35 [erich] for the NH contingent....
17:35:46 [E_Clay10] here in the People's state of MI
17:36:22 [erich] I will have to defer. I am really stretching my legitimacy in any NH group.
17:37:01 [E_Clay10] What do you mean?
17:37:19 [katdillon] hi people
17:37:29 [RussellK] there is an objectivist group in concord nh headed by a FSP guy
17:37:54 [katdillon] I know a bunch of objectivist in nashua
17:38:00 [katdillon] s
17:38:20 [erich] If you are asking about me. I think that the best use of my time is getting involved in NH activity, and getting there a couple times a year, which I will be doing for a week just before town elections in March.
17:38:21 [E_Clay10] I read something like that a year ago then could never find it again.
17:38:24 [katdillon] Amanda's an objectivist...she's just down by Boston
17:38:47 [erich] Hopefully moving this summer, but that is contingent on a job, or a wealthy relative dying.
17:38:49 [katdillon] hello
17:38:49 [E_Clay10] ok
17:38:56 [E_Clay10] hello
17:39:05 [katdillon] What do you do, erich?
17:39:13 [PatK] those little s's just wont stay were you wan't them will they kat
17:39:25 [erich] Software engineer.
17:39:28 [katdillon] you could ask Mike Lorrey....he talks to all those -o people
17:39:32 [RussellK] man we hate that "we made the move" story that includes the rich relative died story
17:39:39 [katdillon] I must be slurring them
17:39:51 [pliny] Would someone tell me what the job market is like for teachers? ( I would prefer to work in a private or parochial school)
17:39:51 [PatK]
17:39:57 [erich] You are just WAY too uptight, Russ
17:40:05 [katdillon] haha
17:40:10 [E_Clay10] Mike Lorrey?
17:40:25 [katdillon] that's one word I've never associated with Russell!
17:40:26 [erich] An objectivist?
17:40:26 [RussellK] I don't know about teacher jobs
17:40:33 [katdillon] I think so
17:40:38 [katdillon] want his email?
17:40:48 [RussellK] there seems to be a high percentage of private schools in our area of Keene
17:40:50 [erich] I only know about teachers of the deaf jobs.
17:40:53 [E_Clay10] yes please
17:41:20 [RussellK] I don't know about the rest
17:41:27 [katdillon] ok just a sec (sec sec, not sex...man, typos these days)
17:41:57 [erich] Do you know of a web presence for the Nashua objectivists? I would think it would be a nexus, since it is the easiest access from Boston.
17:42:19 [katdillon] mlorrey@yahoo.com
17:42:29 [katdillon] mike lorrey knows them
17:42:29 [erich] That is actually where the Boston-area Linux Users group met, last I checked.
17:42:30 [E_Clay10] thanx
17:42:40 [katdillon] I went to a party with them, I'm sorry to say
17:43:25 [katdillon] there is a big linux users group in nashua
17:43:36 [RussellK] I wish we had a linux user group in Keene
17:43:51 [katdillon] start one
17:43:53 [RussellK] hello wildboar
17:43:57 [wildboar] Nice to login and see people online.
17:44:01 [katdillon]
17:44:08 [RussellK] to busy fighting the government
17:44:19 [katdillon] hi boar
17:44:24 [PatK] Keene seems to be the black hole of NH you visit and never leave
17:44:30 [RussellK] the official FSP chat starts at 9pm
17:44:31 [E_Clay10] is everyone here already in NH?
17:44:42 [RussellK] we like to chat for the hour before
17:44:43 [katdillon] yes, come to the dark side
17:44:46 [RussellK] I am
17:44:55 [katdillon] russell and I are in NH
17:45:07 [RussellK] you have to visit Keene last because you will never leave
17:45:11 [E_Clay10] one day
17:45:14 [PatK] I stayed ib Keene for a few days after theporcfest and loved it
17:45:20 [PatK] in even
17:45:25 [katdillon] but you escaped
17:45:32 [RussellK] yes PatK you must move here
17:45:36 [RussellK] it is your destiny
17:45:36 [katdillon] it's supposed to be like Hotel California
17:45:48 [PatK] YEA but not happy about it
17:45:54 [RussellK] lets see patk is not in NH
17:46:05 [RussellK] erich is not here yet
17:46:11 [katdillon] it calls you, just like Bali hai
17:46:34 [katdillon] can you hear it calling you?
17:46:45 [wildboar] I just visited NH for the first time over New Years holiday just to check things out. Drove top to bottom. Liked Jackson.
17:46:59 [RussellK] hmmm
17:47:02 [PatK] though I have never lived far from the ocean, I don't know how that would be
17:47:08 [katdillon] Great
17:47:12 [katdillon] Where's Jackson?
17:47:19 [katdillon] Dry
17:47:20 [RussellK] what did you like about Jackson
17:47:42 [E_Clay10] I lived in Portland ME for a few months in '00 and drove through NH it took maybe 30 minutes
17:47:43 [wildboar] Jackson is north of N. Conway
17:48:12 [katdillon] small state
17:48:30 [E_Clay10] yep
17:48:34 [katdillon] oh, I've been through there then. I liked conway & n. conway
17:48:49 [RussellK] we have people from the seacoast come to keene meetings and viceversa
17:49:14 [RussellK] This is the closest I have ever lived to the ocean PatK
17:49:35 [katdillon] I lived a block from the beach in CA
17:49:40 [wildboar] Jackson is a very picturesque (sp) clean town. Pretty tightly controled place.
17:50:15 [katdillon] lots of picturesque towns here!
17:50:21 [RussellK] you like cute little towns then you move there and try to build a house ....ouch
17:50:23 [katdillon] It's soooo much prettier than TX
17:50:35 [E_Clay10] all right folks nice to meet you all. Live free or die.
17:50:46 [wildboar] I thought Conway and N. Conway were rediculous. It took about 20 minutes just to drive through town because of the traffic and there is just one main street.
17:50:52 [PatK] Well Iguees it's what about an hour and a half from Keene to the sea coast
17:51:15 [erich] Erich is also getting pulled into mastering some video for deaf students an the moment.
17:51:20 [RussellK] a little more
17:51:22 [katdillon] oh bummer...wasn't like that when I went through, so maybe didn't get a good feel for them
17:51:27 [PatK] I drive anhour to montauk to fish here alot so ne big deal
17:51:36 [katdillon] 2.25 hrs
17:51:54 [PatK] more than I thought
17:52:07 [katdillon] 2.2507
17:52:23 [katdillon] he called me 'digital girl' can you believe that?
17:52:37 [RussellK] we are about 2 hours from boston harbor
17:52:45 [RussellK] not any faster to get to the NH coast
17:52:54 [katdillon] 2.37 hrs
17:53:09 [wildboar] What is the big attraction to Keene that I'm hearing here?
17:53:16 [PatK] yea but who the hell wants to drive through Boston
17:53:34 [katdillon] no I
17:53:46 [erich] I've got to think that things are more staid in NH than TX, just because of the extra 200 years of settlement.
17:53:56 [katdillon] It's not too small, not too big, and it's a hotbed of activism
17:54:08 [PatK] I thought Manhatten was bad till I went to Boston
17:54:22 [RussellK] Keene is not too expensive and we live here
17:54:30 [katdillon] Boston = hello on earth
17:54:39 [katdillon] hell
17:54:44 [katdillon] I can't type tonight
17:54:45 [RussellK] we are getting more than our fair share of porcupines here in Keene
17:55:15 [canaan] greetings....
17:55:18 [PatK] And Keene has a wallmart lol
17:55:18 [katdillon] I guess we're meeting in this chatroom tonight for the FSP chat
17:55:25 [RussellK] hello
17:55:32 [PatK] I love the evil Wal-mart
17:55:38 [wildboar] Is there something in particular that the porcupines have done in Keene?
17:55:49 [canaan] just recently found out about porcupines thru a gun magazine article
17:56:03 [katdillon] We're in the process of starting a liberty oriented school
17:56:25 [katdillon] check out nhunderground.com there's a bunch of stuff
17:56:36 [katdillon] that's great, canaan
17:56:37 [RussellK] oh evan nappen got to you.....canaan
17:56:43 [RussellK] he is a good guy
17:56:59 [canaan] yup... russell
17:57:01 [wildboar] That's nice to start a school. has tuittion been set?
17:57:04 [katdillon] Do you have questions about the free state project, canaan?
17:57:22 [canaan] interesting that even WEST WING had NH on the program
17:57:26 [katdillon] no. it's going to be indivual classes at first
17:57:37 [katdillon] cool. what was on west wing?
17:57:46 [RussellK] west wing ....nh?
17:57:56 [wildboar] So how do you make money with the school?
17:58:14 [canaan] kat... the concept sounds intriguing, the main question is viable employment. The company I work for has an office in Dover NH, I have to research openings
17:58:19 [katdillon] right now the individual instructors are charging per class
17:58:35 [canaan] wifey (madmoon) is a banker, so she should be set
17:58:45 [katdillon] oh that's great! Dover is nice. davemincin is in Dover
17:58:58 [katdillon] hi madmoon
17:59:08 [madmoon] howdy kat
17:59:12 [canaan] have to take a vacation there to check things out. LOVE seafood, should be fun
17:59:14 [katdillon] hi scott
17:59:22 [ScottRoth] Hey folks.
17:59:32 [PatK] yea last night on west wing the had the canadatesgoing to the dump and stuff in NH to talk to votters and then went on to belittle the folks and promote a 240 day school year like a 180 days in state jail are not enough
17:59:34 [wildboar] So is the school a formal thing now, I mean can one sign-up and go to it?
17:59:37 [davemincin] hi Kat looks like u have all well in hand
17:59:38 [madmoon] hubby is trying to sell me on the idea of moving to NH
17:59:39 [ScottRoth] Hi Kat.
17:59:52 [katdillon] We're still in the process of getting the school started
18:00:05 [katdillon] Have you ever been to NH, madmoon?
18:00:07 [ScottRoth] Can't wait...
18:00:33 [madmoon] no we've not
18:00:33 [canaan] would be nice to have schools teach kids to learn, as opposed to teaching them to conform...
18:00:36 [RussellK] there are questions for you davemincin...about the seacoast
18:00:58 [davemincin] ok shoot
18:01:16 [katdillon] You're so right! We're planning some night classes for adults, and some day classes supporting homeschoolers
18:01:16 [madmoon] we have been to maryland tho.... there's an awesome sheep and wool festival there every may
18:01:25 [wildboar] Have any of you looked into the viability of actually making a profit from a private school?
18:01:39 [PatK] whats the volicty of a swallow carrying a coconut?
18:01:45 [katdillon] A profit was one of the ideas
18:01:47 [canaan] madmoon would like nothing better than having an alpaca/sheep farm with related crafting projects
18:02:03 [RussellK] a private school can make money
18:02:03 [katdillon] NH is so beautiful. I'm so happy I left TX
18:02:23 [canaan] how long have you been in NH?
18:02:30 [davemincin] if u r in Maryland would suggest u look up Kate and Adam Rick
18:02:32 [katdillon] about 7 months
18:02:33 [ScottRoth] We need more sheep farms.
18:02:36 [RussellK] ok davem patk had a question for you
18:02:38 [wildboar] So do you have a business plan for the private school?
18:03:08 [davemincin] go
18:03:12 [katdillon] Seems like a good place to farm
18:03:37 [RussellK] the instructors rent out the classes and charge what they want, so we all make our own plans
18:03:39 [FTL_Ian] Well look at that, a whole other room
18:03:42 [FTL_Ian] hello all
18:03:45 [PatK] never mind pay no attention to Pat he is just a smart ass
18:03:45 [canaan] LOL, don't know if the alpaca and sheep would like the business I'd like to start.... (shooting range)
18:03:45 [JonM] you on air, or is this time warp hour still ian?
18:03:50 [FTL_Ian] Kat, did you get my last email about your server config?
18:03:50 [katdillon] No. None of us are real business people. We're starting small and working our way into it
18:03:51 [RussellK] hello ian
18:04:04 [FTL_Ian] On air
18:04:09 [FTL_Ian] 2 mins till live
18:04:26 [katdillon] Yes, Ian. The URL seems to work as is
18:04:42 [katdillon] When I tried to change the forum, terrible, unspeakable things happened
18:04:46 [canaan] ommygod, we're not live????
18:04:56 [FTL_Ian] Oh, yes it works, but the config leaves something to be desired that *most* poeple won't notice
18:05:00 [RussellK] lol
18:05:04 [katdillon] Not ian
18:05:21 [katdillon] So nice of you to set it up for me!
18:05:32 [PatK] IM live
18:05:32 [FTL_Ian] so, if you can't config the way I suggested, it's not a huge deal... they do work as is.
18:05:50 [FTL_Ian] Yes, so now next time you're on the radio for an hour, it should be a little smoother.
18:06:37 [katdillon] Yes! If that ever happens again
18:06:39 [RussellK] hello nick
18:06:41 [katdillon] hi Nick
18:07:10 [RussellK] so any really tough questions about NH .....except PatK
18:07:19 [Nick] hello
18:07:26 [RussellK] We have davemincin who represents Dover
18:07:33 [RussellK] Kat and I from Keene
18:07:44 [RussellK] Scott roth from peterborough
18:07:58 [canaan] if it's not to much trouble, how bout a quick and dirty run thru about the project, goals, and method of operation .... Russell
18:08:04 [canaan] *S*
18:08:10 [RussellK] JonM from nearby MA
18:08:27 [JonM] pity me
18:08:31 [Nick] Russ, when do the monad porcs meet?
18:08:33 [RussellK] we want lots of liberty loving people to move to NH
18:08:49 [ScottRoth] Won't be for long, right Jon?
18:08:54 [katdillon] 2nd wednesday of the month
18:08:58 [MiclEdlstn] Is Ben Franklin here today? If not, who's attaching his corny quotes to my name?
18:09:00 [canaan] yes yes....
18:09:07 [RussellK] and do what we can to make NH the most wonderful place in america for liberty
18:09:15 [JonM] well can't move for most of 2005
18:09:21 [Nick] Not a good night for me, but I could try to make it
18:09:23 [katdillon] http://www.soulawakenings.com/underground/tikiwiki/tiki-index.php?page=Monadnock+Porcupines
18:09:34 [canaan] not to sound like a wet blanket, but that's sort of the tail wagging the dog
18:09:37 [ScottRoth] Closer than you think, though...
18:09:57 [katdillon] Great
18:10:06 [canaan] worst case scenario, are we talking succession?
18:10:07 [RussellK] the official goals for the FSP are on the website
18:10:19 [Nick] Thanks for the link Kat
18:10:27 [ScottRoth] More like success!
18:10:41 [RussellK] depends on what happens...the FSP is just about getting people together
18:10:52 [MiclEdlstn] Hi, Dave!
18:10:54 [Nick] I'm not sure secession is an amiable path
18:10:55 [katdillon] Not planning on secession. Plan to work within the system
18:10:57 [JonM] secession is unlikely
18:11:03 [RussellK] I wouldn't mind suceeding myself
18:11:09 [canaan] in listening to an interview that KAT did (downloaded from your website) this project seems very loose
18:11:10 [RussellK] seceeed
18:11:17 [JonM] don't want to be invaded by Canada!
18:11:34 [madmoon] but they're so polite LOL
18:11:35 [RussellK] very loose
18:11:40 [katdillon] The project is to get 20,000 people interested in limited government to move here
18:11:44 [RussellK] loose enough for you to join
18:11:45 [canaan] LOL, I just invited a cANADIAN friend to join us in this chat room... look for PARCENON....
18:11:56 [Nick] Are there any movers with questions?
18:12:00 [PatK] it is damn I better deactivate those strtigic blast charges and cancel the tug boats that were gonna pull us out ot sea
18:12:11 [katdillon] lol PatK
18:12:13 [canaan] LOL russell... be careful, 'ye hardly know me'
18:12:20 [JonM] maine woulda been a better choice for that
18:12:27 [Nick] Actually neighboring Quebec is close to secession from canada
18:12:29 [davemincin] hi michael
18:12:30 [RussellK] see ....that is how it works
18:12:32 [JonM] NH is a tight squeeze to get through 19 miles of coastline
18:13:26 [RussellK] Quebec was one of the inspirations for the FSP
18:13:28 [canaan] it will be interesting to see if the power brokers in washington will 'allow' the constitution and declaration of independence to make it back into popularity....
18:13:30 [ScottRoth] NIce views, though...
18:13:46 [canaan] afterall, Uncle Sam is here to help and protect us.... *sic*
18:13:47 [davemincin] we SC are about networking with NH liberty groups...and making welcome as many of the new folks as possible
18:13:50 [Nick] was it really?
18:14:01 [katdillon] They're banned in CA public schools
18:14:14 [erich] Yes, Quebec and other seperatist movements.
18:14:22 [katdillon] Yes, Nick
18:14:42 [JonM] one teacher
18:14:46 [Nick] The power broker have less power than they claim to
18:14:57 [JonM] who is making a big stink about it and getting some air play
18:14:58 [davemincin] We hear to talk about NH or just chat about whatever?
18:15:10 [Nick] ell quebec is a logical inspiration for decentralization
18:15:12 [katdillon] talk about NH
18:15:17 [erich] Does anybody have a link to Jason's article in LE.
18:15:32 [katdillon] ya just a sec
18:15:36 [davemincin] thanks
18:15:45 [RussellK] hey davem how much does it cost for a 4 bedroom house in Dover
18:15:57 [katdillon] http://www.ncc-1776.org/tle2001/libe131-20010723-03.html
18:16:00 [JonM] hahahah...who is this manwich person ian?
18:16:18 [FTL_Ian] My co-host
18:16:23 [davemincin] expect were in the coast, closer the the water the more expensive
18:16:27 [katdillon] Are you listening to FTL?
18:16:34 [JonM] that much I know
18:16:40 [JonM] but where did you dig him up?
18:16:41 [davemincin] would say for the most part ur talking a couple grand
18:16:43 [madmoon] also, what kind of RE taxes are we talking for a house there?
18:16:55 [FTL_Ian] Someday you could meet him
18:16:56 [PatK] a sandwich is a sandwich but a manwitch is a meal
18:16:58 [davemincin] or close to it
18:16:59 [RussellK] prices are cheaper in Keene that I thought they would be
18:17:06 [erich] see ya
18:17:09 [katdillon] taxes vary from town to town
18:17:41 [RussellK] how much is it for a 2 bedroom apartment in Dover
18:17:41 [FTL_Ian] Hey Underground, are you going to hang and burn a Bureaucrat Shultz effigy?
18:17:49 [FTL_Ian] Inquiring minds want to know
18:18:03 [katdillon] Not planning on it
18:18:06 [RussellK] ian - you never know what people might do
18:18:23 [Nick] The towns around urban areas tend to have lower taxes than the population centers themselves.
18:18:32 [PatK] Dave how much is a six pack of smuttynose beer?
18:18:45 [katdillon] ew
18:18:47 [davemincin] $800-$1000
18:18:53 [RussellK] hmmm
18:19:02 [JonM] I'll guess $6 without having bought smuttynose in years
18:19:04 [katdillon] expensive beer
18:19:07 [PatK] ew?
18:19:10 [davemincin] heck 5 bucks when u find the deals
18:19:30 [katdillon] smuttynose? makes me think of someone with a cold
18:19:44 [FTL_Ian] If you announce it (perhaps during the 25th protest)
18:19:45 [madmoon] lol
18:19:46 [JonM] microbrew
18:19:50 [FTL_Ian] we'll talk about it
18:19:52 [canaan] I have visions of porcupines wandering around aimlessly
18:19:54 [PatK] o-k theese things are important you know
18:19:59 [RussellK] has anyone heard Dada Orwells impersonation of Dave Mincin?
18:20:02 [Nick] Micro brew is overated anyway
18:20:07 [MiclEdlstn] Dave, may I ask you a q about living in NH?
18:20:11 [RussellK] It is to die for
18:20:29 [katdillon] why aimlessly?
18:20:32 [PatK] lol
18:20:32 [PattyE] Hi everyone
18:20:42 [davemincin] I'm paying $650 for a studio, internet cable, phone, utilities included
18:20:45 [RussellK] step right up....your NH ?s answered here
18:20:46 [katdillon] hi patty
18:20:46 [PatK] aDave impersonator
18:20:49 [davemincin] yes go
18:20:49 [JonM] good beer rocks.
18:20:57 [ScottRoth] Hi Patty
18:21:03 [MiclEdlstn] What was the biggest surprise for you after you moved?
18:21:05 [Nick] Amen Jon
18:21:07 [JonM] but they even brew bud in the free state if you're into that
18:21:08 [PattyE] how about Red Hook Nitro?
18:21:16 [madmoon] that sounds kinda high for that small an apartment, dave
18:21:17 [katdillon] beer has rocks in it?
18:21:27 [PatK] Dave are you still allowed to smoke in bars?
18:21:39 [katdillon] the seacoast is more expensive
18:21:40 [davemincin] not really covers all costs...and is month to month
18:21:51 [PatK] Bud is good to clean floors with
18:21:53 [davemincin] yes...smoking the the bars call
18:22:09 [Nick] Not in Keene Dave
18:22:17 [katdillon] hi billy
18:22:19 [RussellK] I was surprised at how friendly the people in NH are
18:22:24 [Nick] Some towns are pushing bans
18:22:42 [davemincin] michael my biggest suprise was the warm welcome we recieved, and how much the natives appreciated our help
18:22:50 [JonM] I do believe the towns were smacked down when they enacted a ban
18:23:04 [JonM] by the state...go figure
18:23:04 [canaan] It's my understanding that you can live in the New England states for decades, and still be considered an 'outsider'
18:23:06 [PattyE] there's a pub in Kingston that has a sign out front "Still Smokin"
18:23:09 [katdillon] Yes, Dave! the natives do appreciate our help
18:23:09 [jgmaynard] Hey HEY!
18:23:14 [RussellK] oh no jim
18:23:15 [MiclEdlstn] Were these non-libertarian natives?
18:23:19 [PatK] IM surprised every time I leave the NY metro area how nice people are
18:23:26 [RussellK] and we were already talking about beer
18:23:32 [jgmaynard] Depends hwo you act, Canaan. LOL
18:23:34 [katdillon] So they say, canaan. I haven't had anyone tell me I was an outsider yet
18:23:40 [RussellK] yes non-libertarian
18:23:44 [davemincin] seems that the locals look at us as the reinforcements and are most happy to have us on board
18:23:45 [katdillon] Hiya jim
18:23:48 [jgmaynard] Oh no! Russ!
18:23:52 [canaan] that's good to know
18:24:00 [RussellK] I love meeting the anti-big government people in NH
18:24:01 [katdillon] Hi fisher
18:24:02 [JonM] ya gotta go north of the notches
18:24:03 [jgmaynard] hiya Kat, Dave and all!
18:24:18 [Nick] I thought I heard something about smoking bans being ruled unconstitutional by the state supreme court
18:24:19 [katdillon] We had two natives show up at our meeting last night to get our help
18:24:26 [davemincin] have talked to many local freedom folks who have said that we have given much energry to lots of folks who have not be active in a long time
18:24:29 [MiclEdlstn] Hi, Jim!
18:24:32 [jgmaynard] Those are the people I grew upp around, Russ..... See what happens? LOL
18:24:35 [ScottRoth] Hi Jim.
18:24:45 [katdillon] That's what I heard, Nick. No one has challenged it in Keene, I gues
18:24:47 [jgmaynard] Hi!
18:24:48 [katdillon] s
18:24:53 [davemincin] hey jim iron city rocks!
18:24:53 [silverfish] jon, forgive my stupidity, but where exactly are the notches?
18:24:58 [RussellK] We had a school board member talking to us yesterday that figured that 75-80% of Keene like what the FSP represents
18:25:01 [jgmaynard] EACTLY, Kat
18:25:03 [davemincin] be sure to say hello to pat for me
18:25:06 [katdillon] same thing we get here, dave!
18:25:14 [Nick] I', a life long native and I'll admit we dont tend to like flat lander, but most people are looking forward to seeing the FSP take off
18:25:27 [RussellK] man jmaynard is taking credit for NH culture
18:25:29 [davemincin] cool...its incredible!
18:25:32 [jgmaynard] I had a lawyer friend of mine tell me as soon as anyone even files a case, the ban in Keene gets thrown out.
18:25:38 [katdillon] Cool Nick. whereabouts are you?
18:25:56 [Nick] Hi Jim
18:26:03 [MiclEdlstn] RussellK: what was his view of what we represent?
18:26:05 [canaan] everyone please welcome BILLY to the chat, he's an authentic cANADIAN (with an open mind)
18:26:11 [jgmaynard] Naw, Russ.... Just making them take credit (or blame) for mw...
18:26:12 [Nick] Nelson NH, 10 mile north of Keene
18:26:23 [jgmaynard] Hi Nick
18:26:25 [katdillon] Welcome, Billy
18:26:33 [PatK] Hi Billy aye
18:26:34 [katdillon] Oh, we go dancing in Nelson
18:26:35 [Nick] Hi
18:26:36 [ScottRoth] Hi Billy.
18:26:39 [Nick] emember me?
18:26:43 [RussellK] lower taxes and such
18:26:46 [ScottRoth] Contra dancin'.
18:26:47 [billy] hello
18:26:49 [Nick] remember?
18:27:01 [JonM] IAN, here's a url of that guy's story
18:27:03 [JonM] http://timesunion.com/AspStories/story.asp?storyID=322152&category=REGIONOTHER&BCCode=HOME&newsdate=1/11/2005
18:27:09 [MiclEdlstn] Kat: what type of dancing is there in Nelson?
18:27:11 [Nick] Contra dancin I bet kat
18:27:28 [katdillon] Yes, contra
18:27:34 [jgmaynard] So what great mystical questions might I answer? lol
18:27:38 [katdillon] Nelson is really small
18:27:49 [Nick] Jim we met at Keene High School
18:27:55 [RussellK] a real live canadian....are we allowed to talk to him after Patriot Act II
18:27:57 [PatK] how small is it?
18:27:58 [Nick] I like it up here
18:28:04 [katdillon] Jim, what's the meaning of life, the universe, and everything?
18:28:09 [jgmaynard] I remember Nick. Took me a second, but I did
18:28:13 [jgmaynard] 42
18:28:15 [davemincin] many of us are working on setting up a networking system so when you get here we can plug you into whatever freedom issue floats your boat
18:28:24 [jgmaynard] The problem is "what is the question?"
18:28:26 [Nick] Safe from the KPD, you ought to see how many cops are out on main st. at 2 am
18:28:29 [katdillon] there's like 3 buildings in town...it's really cute
18:28:38 [canaan] you have to pay a special tax to talk to cANADIANS now...
18:28:41 [katdillon] really?
18:29:10 [jgmaynard] There are a lot, but they're mainly looking for the ones who always get into trouble.
18:29:12 [billy] but it is in canadian dollars
18:29:13 [katdillon] congrats, Jim! you remembered!
18:29:17 [Nick] I tried to makea meeting with the Monadnock libs but you guys weren't there
18:29:28 [katdillon] canuk tax?
18:29:33 [canaan] and then looking for the ones who don't look like us..... and so on
18:29:38 [RussellK] Michael - all you need to know about NH is that Jim Maynard actually receives votes for city council each election
18:29:47 [canaan] actually, it's the MADCOW part 2 tax
18:29:57 [katdillon] heh
18:29:58 [davemincin] the NHLP state Bo
18:29:58 [jgmaynard] Yeah, don't know why. Our porc meetings are always great, and no one has shown up to the last couple monadnock libs meetings
18:30:01 [FTL_Ian] Just plugged nhunderground.com on air
18:30:14 [jgmaynard] Freightening, isn't it, Russ? lol
18:30:16 [FTL_Ian] There was a young man on named "Ryan" who is in NH
18:30:20 [Nick] 25% Jim, wasn't your total around that?
18:30:23 [jgmaynard] Thanks, Ian!
18:30:25 [FTL_Ian] and has been on the FSP forums
18:30:27 [ScottRoth] Go Ian.
18:30:37 [FTL_Ian] so, hopefully he'll head your way
18:30:42 [katdillon] What kind of networking system are you setting up, Dave? I'd hoped to provide info on all liberty oriented groups on the underground
18:30:53 [jgmaynard] I've gone through 4 elections, getting between 12.5-25%.
18:30:57 [katdillon] hello npkarem
18:30:59 [Nick] I would like to make a meeting but I have two other commitments the night you meet
18:31:13 [ScottRoth] Hi npkarem.
18:31:21 [Nick] Has the vote % been increasing over that time
18:31:28 [RussellK] commitments were meant to be broken Nick
18:31:34 [PatK] Jim will get more votes if he can get Varrin a 30 foot assualt drive way
18:31:37 [jgmaynard] up and down.
18:31:45 [npkarem] Hi, just taking a peek
18:31:48 [davemincin] mostly personal contacts...but jane has the calendar up, contacted to CNHT and GONH, we are also working on a phone tree at NHLA
18:31:48 [katdillon] We may get together at other times. you want me to let you know?
18:31:49 [jgmaynard] At least ONE more, Pat! lol
18:31:56 [Nick] Yeah I may very well break those commitments
18:32:02 [wildboar] Mr. Maynard, what do you need to win?
18:32:19 [Nick] Councilman Coates certainly knows who you are
18:32:23 [katdillon] votes?
18:32:28 [jgmaynard] Mr. Maynard?!?!?? My father is here???? lol
18:32:29 [davemincin] NHLP is also in the loop...as well as the Constitutional party
18:32:35 [jgmaynard] They ALL do, Nick
18:32:40 [katdillon] I think everyone in town knows Jim
18:32:49 [jgmaynard] In any multi-seat race, you need about 40% to win
18:32:50 [ScottRoth] Oh yeah...
18:33:07 [katdillon] The constitution party of monadnock had 30 people show up the other night!
18:33:13 [wildboar] What do you need to do/have to get 40%?
18:33:14 [JonM] he needs other people to forget to run!
18:33:19 [katdillon] cause that Scott Roth guy rocks
18:33:21 [jgmaynard] Not everyone, Kat. There's one store I haven't been in yet. lol
18:33:27 [ScottRoth] This thing can only get bigger!
18:33:32 [Nick] Coates isn't a bad guy though his politics leave something to be desired
18:33:34 [RussellK] lol
18:33:35 [ScottRoth] Thanks Kat.
18:33:45 [PatK] what store is that?
18:34:01 [jgmaynard] door to door activism with nice brouchures is probably the most effective thing I haven't been able to do
18:34:10 [Nick] I'm not a big fan of the constitution party
18:34:14 [katdillon] More questions about NH?
18:34:20 [ScottRoth] Did anyone say nice brochures?
18:34:24 [jgmaynard] Bingo on Coates, Nick
18:34:28 [wildboar] Why haven't you been able to do the brochures?
18:34:36 [jgmaynard] Matter of fact, Scottt, I DID!
18:34:40 [JonM] mr. maynard did!
18:35:01 [ScottRoth] We need to talk further...
18:35:05 [jgmaynard] Ran out of money before ideas both time, WB....
18:35:07 [katdillon] lol @ "mr. maynard"
18:35:12 [ScottRoth] Happy to help.
18:35:12 [Nick] If you need volunteers to go door to door I can help Jim.
18:35:17 [davemincin] believe we need to find allies were we can and concentrate on issues rather than labels
18:35:19 [katdillon] Scott does fantastic brochures
18:35:32 [jgmaynard] I spent the money that could have gone to brochures on refrigerator magnets last time
18:35:37 [katdillon] you're so right, Dave!
18:35:38 [ScottRoth] No complaints...yet.
18:35:40 [jgmaynard] figured they would be seen more.
18:35:41 [canaan] dave..... AGREED !!!
18:35:54 [katdillon] hi otosan
18:35:56 [jgmaynard] Sounds, great, Nick! Thank you!
18:35:56 [Nick] I'd go with brochures next time
18:36:01 [wildboar] How many brochures would you need and what do you think that would cost?
18:36:04 [otosan] hideho
18:36:10 [ScottRoth] Hi otosan.
18:36:13 [MiclEdlstn] Jim: Is Country Life in Keene still open (terrific restaurant!)?
18:36:20 [jgmaynard] Wow.
18:36:22 [Nick] Just a suggestion
18:36:28 [jgmaynard] There's about 10k voters in town.
18:36:37 [ScottRoth] Best vegetarian food around...
18:36:42 [jgmaynard] It is!
18:37:04 [katdillon] wildboar sounds ready for some political action!
18:37:11 [jgmaynard] yeah, I figured brochures would get lost on people's tables
18:37:13 [Nick] IReally, I've never heard of it actually
18:37:16 [PatK] o-k cross country life of my list
18:37:25 [jgmaynard] where they would USE and continually see a refrig magnet.
18:37:28 [katdillon] me neither
18:37:31 [MiclEdlstn] ScottRoth: Do you know of other vegetarian restaurants in NH?
18:37:47 [katdillon] maybe the people who got magnets last year will vote for you, after seeing your name all year
18:37:49 [jgmaynard] So 10k brouchures for full coverage.
18:38:00 [Nick] The might not put up the mag though and they must not be as cheap
18:38:02 [jgmaynard] Hope so, Kat!
18:38:05 [fisher] stusty's in northwood is vegan too
18:38:14 [ScottRoth] There are 2 I believe in Concord, 1 in Laconia and 1 in Manchester.
18:38:34 [jgmaynard] Was about the same $.60 per for 1k, i think
18:38:35 [wildboar] 10K is too many. How much would it cost for 5K?
18:38:52 [jgmaynard] 1 sec
18:38:56 [Nick] I think a lot of us are ready for action, we talk a lot in this project and I think we want to see something happen
18:39:00 [MiclEdlstn] ScottRoth: How could I get their names?
18:39:35 [wildboar] So what you're saying is that you are short $300???
18:39:41 [ScottRoth] I'll do some research for you. Just leave me your e-mail and I'll send a reply.
18:39:46 [jgmaynard] $1000 for 10k full color brouchures from the place I used last time
18:40:09 [canaan] i heard something about inflating property values to get a higher tax, this is not a good thing, how can it be fought off?
18:40:10 [jgmaynard] Don't say that, Nick.
18:40:19 [RussellK] we run cheap races in NH
18:40:23 [jgmaynard] Kat will break out into Monty Python routines. lol
18:40:33 [MiclEdlstn] DrEdelstein@ThreeMinuteTherapy.com Thanks, Scott!
18:40:37 [katdillon] Me? never
18:40:42 [davemincin] currently working with a Dover tax group to rewrite the city charter
18:40:49 [PatK] I would like to see that
18:40:56 [jgmaynard] ScottRoth> jgmaynard@yahoo.com 603-358-5079
18:40:57 [JonM] .10 isn't a terrible price per, but I can print them for half that on a phaser 7300
18:41:12 [Nick] Monty Python fans, another group I'm proud to be part of
18:41:12 [canaan] excellent,
18:41:24 [madmoon] so that's something that has to be dealt with for each community?
18:41:26 [davemincin] the big problem is property reassment is suppost to be revenue neutral, but mostly isn't
18:41:28 [jgmaynard] Cool. Drop me a note, JonM
18:41:33 [katdillon] splitter
18:41:37 [wildboar] Nick is right and what he's saying is true. I mean, if you guys are serious then you might be better off talking strategy than home brew.
18:41:42 [PatK] some day son all this will be yours = what the curtains?
18:41:42 [JonM] it's my work printer
18:42:02 [JonM] but that's the cost per page not counting the printer cost (about $6k)
18:42:20 [jgmaynard] JonM> jgmaynard@yahoo.com 603-358-5079
18:42:34 [Nick] Home brew is a good topic too, I'm just dying to see some libs take office
18:43:11 [jgmaynard] So we have the town elections happening, and warrant articles in the city..
18:43:14 [JonM] a phaser 8200 will set you back $1000 for the base model, $2500 for top of the line, but it's a solid ink printer, 24 pages a minute and someone could do well printing political stuff on it
18:43:15 [katdillon] Jim, that's a public message you're sending of your phone number
18:43:30 [jgmaynard] Kat. You were going to say something about this?
18:43:31 [ScottRoth] I use a Phaser 850.
18:43:33 [katdillon] do /to person for private messages
18:43:36 [PatK] Im not dead ive feeling much better
18:43:38 [jgmaynard] D'OH!
18:43:52 [madmoon] lol
18:43:54 [katdillon] can you open carry your phaser?
18:43:58 [JonM] sorry, phaser 8400
18:44:06 [jgmaynard] Not a biggie. I know most people here, and it's on the FSP site anyways. lol
18:44:09 [JonM] I have an 850 at work... SLOW AS A DOG TWO DAYS DEAD
18:44:13 [RussellK]
18:44:13 [PatK] and is it set onn stun or kill?
18:44:31 [PatK] thats slow
18:44:33 [JonM] but black ink is free!
18:44:35 [katdillon] that's very picturesque, Jon
18:44:39 [RussellK] now I know you guys aren't serious about freedom who could joke like that
18:44:45 [jgmaynard] Anyone talk to Dawn or Bill about their campaigns?
18:44:48 [wildboar] OK, so you want a Lib in office...How much money will it take? We're talking bucks here right? The message is good and there's no reason for people to be afraid of us.
18:44:48 [Nick] Is there an eligeble person who wants to run for mayor in Keene?
18:44:52 [PatK] but still not as slow as the dmv
18:45:04 [JonM] if you can deal with 1 page every 2 minutes doing duplex high quality
18:45:08 [katdillon] Just a little. Dawn was apparently out smoozing last night
18:45:13 [jgmaynard] Woooooooooooo..
18:45:15 [ScottRoth] Hi 2Hotel9.
18:45:24 [jcpliberty] Good Evening all!
18:45:24 [ScottRoth] Hey Jim.
18:45:32 [2Hotel9] Howdy, I just found you guys.
18:45:33 [canaan] ... now we'll see who will be kind or cruel on his phone calls.... *scary music goes here*
18:45:33 [davemincin] talked to both last weekend think the class we had in Manchester was real helpful
18:45:33 [katdillon] hi hotel, jp
18:45:37 [jgmaynard] There's at least one person (a former councilman) who I would LOVE to see run for mayor
18:45:45 [katdillon] what happened at that class, Dave?
18:45:47 [Nick] Money is the one thing we lackbut I'm not a millionaire so I can't help
18:45:50 [ScottRoth] Glad you found us...
18:45:53 [JonM] hey jim, register any domains today?
18:45:55 [jgmaynard] I know she got burnt out on politics a couple years back, though....
18:45:57 [jcpliberty] I see Jim Maynard on, so I am JP for the evening. Hi Jim! Hey Scott, Kat and everyone.
18:46:03 [Nick] What's their name Jim
18:46:15 [2Hotel9] Was kicking around in Milblogs. Someone pointed me this direction
18:46:23 [PatK] I played lotto if I win I will let ya know
18:46:28 [jgmaynard] Nancy Wilkinson. Not sure if she;d run, though
18:46:45 [katdillon] Are you interested in the Free State Project, 2Hotel9?
18:46:51 [Nick] Well it's all up to her
18:46:57 [katdillon] good plan, Pat
18:47:01 [jgmaynard] If she DID, she'd be fully worthy of our support.
18:47:04 [RussellK] man I only rate as an "everyone"
18:47:19 [jgmaynard] AND would stand a good chance at winning.
18:47:19 [jcpliberty] No, not yet. I will get to the domain registration in the morning.
18:47:23 [ScottRoth] Awwww.....
18:47:26 [jcpliberty] Hi Russell!
18:47:26 [Nick] Is she an LP member or not?
18:47:29 [2Hotel9] Have not heard much more than the name. I'm in PA.
18:47:35 [davemincin] mostly we went over how to run for office in small towns...lots of offices crying to have someone run for them, much easier to get elected that the cities, and get your name out there for bigger things later
18:47:45 [jgmaynard] Nope. A friendly Benson-esque Republican
18:48:07 [katdillon] The Free State Project is a plan in which 20,000 or more liberty-oriented people will move to New Hampshire, where they may work within the political system to reduce the size and scope of government. The success of the Free State Project would likely entail reductions in burdensome taxation...
18:48:16 [JonM] non scandal ridden I would hope
18:48:23 [katdillon] and regulation, reforms in state and local law, an end to federal mandates, and a restoration of constitutional federalism, demonstrating the benefits of liberty to the rest of the nation and the world.
18:48:24 [jcpliberty] Hi, 2Hotel9, billy, canaan, Dave, fisher, Ian, Jon, madmoon, MiclEdlstn, Nick, otosan, Pat, PattyE, PrickleNH, silverfish, viscid and wildboard!
18:48:24 [Nick] You're right on dave we could win a lot of uncontested races in the hick towns
18:48:26 [ScottRoth] You copied...
18:48:32 [RussellK] this is for fun 2hotel9 have to go to http://www.freestateproject.org for the official stuff
18:48:37 [jcpliberty] There!
18:48:48 [Nick] Benson was great
18:48:49 [katdillon] Yes, I'm lazy
18:48:56 [silverfish] JP you are the guy who is going to escape from mass, correct? when will that occur
18:48:58 [jgmaynard] Even in cities like Keene, many of the smaller offices (selectman, etc) doesn't even have enough people running to fill the seats, and NO ONE runs a campaign for those offices
18:49:00 [katdillon] I'm hoping for some scandal
18:49:02 [Nick] For a repub
18:49:02 [PattyE] Hi JP!
18:49:06 [PatK] might not want to say hick towns though kinda turns off the voters
18:49:08 [katdillon] hi margomaps
18:49:14 [ScottRoth] But you're quick about it...
18:49:22 [ScottRoth] Hi margomaps
18:49:22 [jgmaynard] MArgo!
18:49:25 [davemincin] catch u Saturday JP
18:49:26 [jcpliberty] Sunday is the official charade. been here since ealry fall.
18:49:33 [RussellK] no more HI JP from me....no sirree
18:49:37 [katdillon] Feel free to fire away on any questions you have
18:49:42 [margomaps] hey Scott, jg
18:49:42 [Nick] I'm a hick though so I get to say it
18:49:45 [jcpliberty] Hey margomapos
18:49:55 [katdillon] quickest paste in town
18:49:59 [jcpliberty] Oh shush Russell! LOL
18:50:09 [2Hotel9] I am politicaly active here. Lotsa heads to smack here!lol
18:50:10 [RussellK]
18:50:11 [margomaps] is that the Greek spelling of my name, margomapos? hey
18:50:12 [ScottRoth] Yep
18:50:23 [katdillon] Careful Russell, you'll be sent to the whining forum
18:50:27 [ScottRoth] In the White Mountains.
18:50:29 [katdillon] lol
18:50:36 [RussellK] 2hotel9 - davemincin moved from PA to NH
18:50:38 [silverfish] and hello Jim Maynard!
18:50:45 [PatK] the notches are on Kats gun
18:50:47 [ScottRoth] Up near Mount Washington.
18:50:54 [PattyE] north of Conway
18:50:54 [katdillon] congrats on your decision to join the FSP, silver!
18:50:56 [Nick] where is here hotel?
18:50:59 [ScottRoth] BANG!
18:51:02 [silverfish] i have been up at waterville valley
18:51:04 [jgmaynard] So how can we help Dawn and Bill for the March election?
18:51:07 [davemincin] a number of folks signed onto run for office Saturday...will take a bit to get the full count
18:51:11 [katdillon] that's not where *my* notches are
18:51:19 [jcpliberty] Up in the White Mountains, the Kangc is the main highway, right there in the middle of them.
18:51:21 [2Hotel9] I'm rural. North of Pittsburgh
18:51:30 [silverfish] my mother in law is a new hampshire 'resident' up there
18:51:35 [katdillon] I figure we can write a couple letters to the editor and hand out flyers
18:51:38 [ScottRoth] Hi solomon484
18:51:39 [jcpliberty] Guess what everyone:
18:51:43 [PatK] Im to scared to ask were they are
18:51:46 [jcpliberty] Hi soloman 484
18:51:47 [katdillon] Dave mincin's from the pittsburg area
18:51:50 [davemincin] Jim thinking they will need people to pass out flyers
18:51:55 [katdillon] what jp?
18:51:57 [davemincin] yes that's me
18:52:02 [jcpliberty] I am running for Nashua Alderman this year :-)
18:52:03 [jgmaynard] We have flyers for them?
18:52:06 [Nick] There's a north of Pittsburgh?
18:52:18 [Nick] Pittsburgh NH?
18:52:21 [PatK] lderman?
18:52:27 [jgmaynard] Go jim. Go Jim....
18:52:32 [davemincin] Hotel i lived north of PGH Sharon for quite a bit..and know most of the area well
18:52:32 [PatK] oops
18:52:35 [Nick] good for you liberty
18:52:37 [RussellK] whatever happened to waiting a few years JP?
18:52:38 [jcpliberty] I bouth myself a copy of the operating budget (yes they CHARGE for it), a copy of the ordinances and charter
18:52:42 [PatK] whats an Alderman?
18:52:47 [jcpliberty] bought*
18:52:50 [katdillon] Not yet. the election is months away and we don't even know Bill's last name
18:52:54 [solomon484] Hello.
18:52:56 [jcpliberty] Like a City Councillor
18:53:03 [davemincin] if your still in the area i can put you in touch with some folks i know there working on putting a group together
18:53:08 [2Hotel9] Yea, its where pittsburghers come to hunt&drink. Or is that drink&hunt?
18:53:10 [katdillon] wow jp
18:53:11 [jcpliberty] We have Alderman instead.
18:53:11 [PatK] o-k thanks
18:53:21 [ScottRoth] He's still young, Russell.
18:53:34 [jcpliberty] http://www.jimcperry.com
18:53:41 [davemincin] Last note from me was for Hotel
18:53:42 [katdillon] he'll be old, come sunday
18:53:44 [jcpliberty] Well, I got really ticked off today, reading the budget
18:53:50 [Nick] Oh I though Pittsburgh was a border town, sorry
18:53:58 [RussellK] hope you are running one of those unopposed races JP
18:53:59 [jcpliberty] So, I decided, if not to win, then at least to educate about the budget.
18:54:06 [jcpliberty] I would run for Alderman
18:54:08 [ScottRoth] whoa, James...
18:54:13 [JonM] jp: what, you'd prefer they print it at taxpayer expense and give it to you?
18:54:45 [jgmaynard] Reading budgets will do that to ya. lol
18:54:50 [jcpliberty] So, I am running to win, but I would at least like to educate the public about their budget if I do not win.
18:55:21 [Nick] In a couple years I can run, Yes
18:55:25 [JonM] there's a town somewhere among those stores in nashua?
18:55:32 [jcpliberty] Well no, but they put it on a "One Use Only" CD. I can download it onto the computer once, but then the CD it self is no good.
18:55:35 [2Hotel9] I have been reading the Oil For Food Report. GOD! Mind numbing!
18:55:52 [RussellK] stores are a town
18:56:00 [katdillon] yeah, the capitalism is rampant in nashua...terrible thing :P
18:56:17 [madmoon] u can turn that cd into a spindle, jp
18:56:22 [jgmaynard] Wow. goodness forbid you should use the disk twice. lol
18:56:26 [jcpliberty] Yeah, 85,000 residents
18:56:29 [katdillon] What did you find out, Hotel?
18:56:41 [ScottRoth] It's only gonna get worse, 2hotel9.
18:57:07 [jcpliberty] Get U.S. Out of the U.N.!
18:57:19 [jgmaynard] So is your election in Nov, JC?
18:57:21 [ScottRoth] Amen, brother.
18:57:23 [madmoon] amen jim
18:57:32 [JonM] nah, get the U.N. out of the U.S.
18:57:39 [Nick] Some good news for the future, when I ran for governor in the Youth and government I gave a straight up speech about what I would do as governor, and that was right along Libertarian lines. I lost by one vote of about 40 and that includes the fact that it was a primary race between us and ConVal, a
18:57:41 [JonM] move em to France!
18:57:42 [2Hotel9] So far? Mismanagement, theft , lying. The usual!
18:57:52 [jcpliberty] Yep, November,
18:57:54 [Nick] And they outnumbered us two to one
18:58:00 [Alkalyne] Hey all
18:58:04 [katdillon] we held a lovely UN flag burning a few weeks ago
18:58:12 [katdillon] hello alkalyne
18:58:16 [jgmaynard] OK. I gonna head. Ciao, all!
18:58:21 [ScottRoth] Hi Alkalyne.
18:58:26 [jcpliberty] Check out my website for details. I will update more as I go along. Be sure to checdk out my campaign store ;-)
18:58:32 [ScottRoth] Take care Jim.
18:58:34 [jcpliberty] Hi Alkaylne.
18:58:37 [Alkalyne] I'm really really interested in all this.
18:58:38 [RussellK] me too hate to leave the fun but bye everyone
18:58:42 [2Hotel9] I saw the pics. Nice job!!
18:58:43 [jcpliberty] Bye Jim!
18:58:45 [katdillon] night, jim
18:59:00 [ScottRoth] Night Russell.
18:59:04 [MiclEdlstn] bye everyone
18:59:08 [katdillon] Great, alk. Are there any questions we can answer?
18:59:14 [jcpliberty] Bye Russell!
18:59:29 [Alkalyne] In fact.. its almost a dream of mine. I've always wanted to see something like this. Well... after waking up to all the tyrrany.
18:59:32 [Nick] I wish I'd known about that flag burning kat, I cut out the article
18:59:32 [solomon484] Later Russell-even if your realted to Bertrand Russell
18:59:35 [RussellK] bye JP
18:59:47 [Nick] bye jim
19:00:05 [jcpliberty] Blech... Bertrand Russell, what did you have to bring HIM up for?
19:00:15 [Nick] That was some extensive press for such a small demonstration
19:00:18 [Alkalyne] Er.. so you guys all live in the same community?
19:00:18 [jcpliberty] LOL
19:00:24 [katdillon] I agree with you there! I felt like I had to do something to stop the tyranny!
19:00:28 [2Hotel9] We have regular shoots here, UN berets and flags.
19:00:38 [katdillon] No, we're all over the state
19:00:44 [jcpliberty] Nashua here!
19:00:44 [katdillon] lol Hotel
19:00:45 [Alkalyne] oh
19:01:01 [PattyE] Seabrook
19:01:03 [Alkalyne] then why is it so imparitive to be in NH?
19:01:09 [jcpliberty] But Keene has an unusually high concentration.
19:01:16 [ScottRoth] It's the only place to be.\
19:01:18 [Nick] Nelson
19:01:19 [Alkalyne] ah
19:01:24 [katdillon] We picked on state with a small population to concentrate on
19:01:35 [Alkalyne] Won't this turn into a huge Waco?
19:01:41 [Alkalyne] worst case senario
19:01:42 [katdillon] that already is pretty liberty friendly
19:01:42 [jcpliberty] On the Free State Project website is a document, 101 Reasons to Move to NH
19:01:46 [davemincin] because we have the opportunty for real change in the direction of more freedom
19:01:47 [2Hotel9] NH has always been a hot bed of freedom.
19:01:48 [katdillon] I hope not!
19:02:00 [Nick] NH is the most free state in the union aswell
19:02:11 [jcpliberty] Indeed.
19:02:19 [katdillon] NH does have good gun laws, though
19:02:24 [jcpliberty] Seethe above referenced 101 Reasons
19:02:44 [Nick] I doubt there will be a waco, what would they get a warrant for, being libertarian
19:02:47 [katdillon] http://freestateproject.org/
19:02:59 [PattyE] I enjoyed my first 3 minute auto inspection (takes half hour in MA)
19:03:08 [katdillon] it's going to be tough to massace people spread out all over the state, anyway
19:03:10 [2Hotel9] Only one gun law 2nd Amendment
19:03:17 [Alkalyne] Nick: They don't need a warrant... they didn't for Waco.
19:03:21 [katdillon] yikes
19:03:35 [PatK] NH=no income tax no sales tax, people friendly to liberty and Dave will buy you abeer what more could you ask for
19:03:38 [Alkalyne] Ture Kat... thats why I asked if it was a community
19:03:41 [FTL_Ian] Violence on the part of the government is not scaring us away from the freedom we deserve.
19:03:42 [Nick] They did have a warrant for waco
19:04:00 [Alkalyne] A warrant for what?
19:04:22 [Nick] If you won't take a risk you wan't get anywhere, nothing ventured, nothing gained
19:04:22 [Alkalyne] FTL: it won't scare me either.. I was just curious
19:04:42 [FTL_Ian] Nick: to play Devil's Advocate, they may not need a warrant if you're a "suspected terrorist"
19:04:51 [davemincin] believe we are talking about a warrant article...like in getting something on the ballot
19:04:52 [katdillon] We can have voilence committed against us even if we weren't doing this. We've got to try
19:05:08 [FTL_Ian] kat: no doubt
19:05:18 [jcpliberty] USA Patriot... no more warrants needed.
19:05:29 [Nick] That's true Ian, Patriot act is to thank for that
19:05:48 [2Hotel9] Been shot at before. Ain't nothin' but a thing.
19:05:52 [katdillon] here's a little project I'm working on: http://www.soulawakenings.com/underground/tikiwiki/tiki-index.php?page=101+Reasons+to+Fear+your+Government
19:06:03 [katdillon] wow
19:06:29 [solomon484] No warrants, no probable cause, and torture if troublemaker.
19:06:34 [Nick] Why were you shot at??
19:06:54 [PatK] husband came home early
19:07:12 [davemincin] anything else about NH?
19:07:13 [Nick] If you don't mind saying
19:07:17 [2Hotel9] Army, 79 to 85. Honduras 82-83.
19:07:31 [ScottRoth] Let's try this again.
19:07:36 [katdillon] lol pat
19:07:56 [katdillon] welcome back, scott
19:08:10 [ScottRoth] Couldn't type anything...
19:08:15 [Nick] I might be going Army next year
19:08:32 [2Hotel9] What MOS?
19:08:37 [ScottRoth] Sorry to hear that. Thanks for trying.
19:09:13 [PatK] X-Navy but nobody ever shot at me
19:09:17 [Nick] I'm thinking MPs, but they are often dployed, I want to go ANG
19:10:21 [Nick] I'm not sure if I'm going, I'm currently in CAP so I get to start as an E3
19:10:30 [2Hotel9] Go Combat Arms. Get it over with right off the bat! LOL
19:10:30 [ScottRoth] Appreciate it...
19:10:32 [davemincin] Later folks...hope to see some of u Saturday!
19:10:44 [Nick] But I'll probably go for a comision regardless
19:10:48 [ScottRoth] Take care Dave.
19:10:48 [katdillon] night dave...thanks for coming. we'll be there sat
19:10:51 [PatK] be good Dave
19:10:57 [Nick] What's up saturday?
19:11:02 [PattyE] Dave - are you going to Nashua on Saturday?
19:11:04 [jcpliberty] bye dave
19:11:12 [2Hotel9] Later, PA
19:11:25 [Nick] You mean weapons specialist hotel?
19:11:26 [jcpliberty] What's in Nashua Saturday?
19:11:29 [FTL_Ian] Hope you military people don't get your asses stop-lossed!
19:12:02 [Nick] I think most of them hope so too Ian
19:12:09 [JonM] stay air force
19:12:19 [Nick] I'm anti Iraq war just to put that out there
19:12:22 [JonM] army tends to get the short shrift on equipment
19:12:30 [canaan] or coast guard
19:12:50 [ScottRoth] No war ever declared.
19:12:56 [2Hotel9] They don't want me, I tend to shoot people. Regardless of current political climate.
19:12:57 [Nick] Air Force tends to be better duty, I'd like to hook up with the air guard at pease
19:13:28 [Nick] You sound like my kind of soldier hotel
19:13:31 [jcpliberty] Well, I am a Conscientious Objector based upon my religious beliefs on top of the fact that the War in Iraq is illegal.
19:13:33 [canaan] .... nothing like the smell of gunpowder in the morning...
19:13:57 [canaan] legal war.... interesting concept..... hmmm
19:14:10 [solomon484] I say the same about depleted uranium.
19:14:14 [Nick] I couldn't get a CO release unless I lied
19:14:34 [jcpliberty] Ah.
19:14:45 [Nick] Liberty, would you kill for any reason
19:14:51 [2Hotel9] People want to kill us, rather do it there than here. And no, it ain't our foreign policy they don't like
19:14:58 [margomaps] sounds complicated. a lot of in's, a lot of out's...a lot of what-have-you's
19:15:05 [ScottRoth] Kat, what's up on Saturday?
19:15:30 [Nick] Legal is an ambiguos term
19:15:54 [PattyE] Seacoast Porcupine meeting on Saturday
19:16:04 [ScottRoth] Ahhhhh......
19:16:09 [jcpliberty] Personal Self Defense or in the defense of any of my friends, if I were present at an initiation of force on their life, liberty or property.
19:16:11 [Nick] Justified is more my peramiter, Afghanistan was justified, Iraq wasn't
19:16:11 [solomon484] What is job situation in NH?
19:16:19 [katdillon] Seacoast porcupines, handing out flyers in Hampton
19:16:31 [PatK] good night all
19:16:32 [ScottRoth] Yep.
19:16:40 [ScottRoth] Nite, Pat.
19:16:40 [katdillon] Russell had no problem finding work
19:16:45 [Nick] Night
19:16:46 [jcpliberty] Night Pat!
19:16:52 [ScottRoth] Jobs are avilable.
19:16:58 [ScottRoth] available.
19:16:58 [Nick] I can't make seacoast saturday
19:17:08 [PattyE] at the courthouse in Hampton, right?
19:17:25 [solomon484] What is pay in comparison to other states?
19:17:30 [katdillon] No, that will be on the 25th
19:17:36 [katdillon] at the courthouse
19:17:40 [Nick] Nothing happening in the monadnock region this wknd?
19:17:41 [jcpliberty] Yeah, jobs are readily available and there are very few business restrictions, so starting your own is easy here.
19:17:53 [Nick] You mean salary?
19:18:00 [ScottRoth] Not top dollar, but not bottom either.
19:18:00 [katdillon] No. Nashua on Sunday though
19:18:09 [PattyE] temp jobs at the Seabrook PO - $13.05/hr
19:18:10 [solomon484] Yes.
19:18:12 [katdillon] We're chaining jcp up
19:18:22 [jcpliberty] Saturday Morning, 9:00 AM Wilton, NH at gary's Harvest Rest.
19:18:31 [katdillon] oh yeah
19:18:35 [canaan] chaining jcp???? are we getting kinky here???
19:18:38 [Nick] Pretty high though I don't have stats to back that up
19:18:39 [ScottRoth] Still on...
19:19:01 [katdillon] We're breaking his bonds from MA
19:19:12 [katdillon] and handing out FSP flyers and such
19:19:40 [solomon484] Where is Seabrook PO?
19:19:42 [Nick] Sounds symbolic kat
19:19:45 [PattyE] did the Eagle-Tribune reporter respond kat?
19:19:56 [Nick] Too bad I can't be there
19:19:56 [katdillon] http://www.soulawakenings.com/underground/tikiwiki/tiki-index.php?page=Jim+Perry+chained+up
19:20:03 [katdillon] Nope, Patty
19:20:15 [Nick] New Hampshirites will like that
19:20:28 [PattyE] told him it would be a good story
19:20:44 [katdillon] thanks
19:20:46 [jcpliberty] I am going to have an I Hate Massachusetts bumpah stickah printed up for the car.
19:21:01 [katdillon] lol
19:21:01 [Nick] Anti Mass bias is stronger than most people would think possible in an era where every state is supposed to be the same
19:21:05 [2Hotel9] Did MA flog him at the tail of a CART BEFORE HE COULD LEAVE, KAT
19:21:07 [jcpliberty] Not in tieme though for Sunday
19:21:35 [2Hotel9] Sorr, hit that damn caps lock again.
19:21:45 [katdillon] Flogging, we didn't consider that. you up for flogging, too, jim?
19:22:15 [Nick] I only like mass because I can go to the big concert venues there
19:22:16 [jcpliberty] NO!
19:22:19 [canaan] chaining and flogging.... did the tone of this room suddenly change?
19:22:20 [katdillon] lol
19:22:39 [Nick] C'mon jim take a wippin for the team
19:22:41 [2Hotel9] Jim, you the jcp whats getting chained?
19:22:49 [ScottRoth] He's from Massachusetts. We have to be careful, you know...
19:22:59 [katdillon] Time for me to hit the hay. Good night everyone and thanks for coming!
19:23:12 [ScottRoth] Nite Kat. Talk to you soon.
19:23:18 [jcpliberty] JCPLIBERTY = Jim C. Perry, candidate for Nashua Alderman-at-Large
19:23:19 [2Hotel9] Later on, kat
19:23:22 [Nick] Good night, gad I could make it
19:23:24 [PattyE] bye kat
19:23:25 [jcpliberty] Nite Kat!
19:24:54 [FTL_Ian] To anyone who has voted for my show, thanks
19:24:57 [2Hotel9] Been interesting. I'll be back. Got to get back to my reading. That mind numbing crap ain't going to read itself!!
19:25:01 [FTL_Ian] To those that havent: http://www.podcastalley.com/see_comments.php?pod_id=929
19:25:08 [ScottRoth] Great show, Ian. Glad I found it.
19:25:09 [FTL_Ian] Please take 20 seconds
19:25:12 [FTL_Ian] click there
19:25:18 [PattyE] yqw ian
19:25:18 [FTL_Ian] vote 5 stars
19:25:36 [FTL_Ian] more votes = more listeners = more potential FSP recruits
19:25:47 [FTL_Ian] Thanks Scott
19:25:53 [FTL_Ian] How did you find it?
19:26:31 [wildboar] I'm looking for a nice place to live in NH. Took a tour over New Years and found Jackson (north of N. Conway) and liked that. Anyone familiar with Jackson?
19:26:36 [ScottRoth] A link from one of the liberty websites.
19:27:04 [FTL_Ian] Know which?
19:27:16 [ScottRoth] Jackson. Yeah, nice bridge...
19:27:40 [ScottRoth] Don't remember, Ian. But if I do, I'll e-mail you for sure.
19:28:23 [FTL_Ian] Nice to know who is linking
19:28:26 [FTL_Ian] thanks
19:28:35 [ScottRoth] I've been on SO MANY sites lately...
19:28:40 [FTL_Ian] Have you called your local talk stations?
19:28:42 [wildboar] Yes, nice bridge, golf course, town, view, etc... Is there another town in NH like Jackson so I have something to compare it to?
19:28:43 [jcpliberty] Anyway, I need to go do some prep for going to Hampton tomorrow to hand out flyers. Talk to you all later! Check out http://www.jimcperry.com and buy stuff from my Campaign Store so I can afford to run!
19:28:46 [FTL_Ian] We would love for you to do so
19:28:50 [2Hotel9] Later on, Gang. Got to go.
19:28:51 [jcpliberty] G'night!
19:28:57 [FTL_Ian] bye now jcp
19:29:01 [ScottRoth] See you on Saturday, JP.
19:29:43 [PattyE] where are you handing out flyers in Hampton?
19:29:43 [ScottRoth] Lots of towns like Jackson here in NH.
19:30:09 [ScottRoth] Have to check with JP on that.
19:30:41 [solomon484] Later Room.
19:30:46 [wildboar] Like what other towns? I drove the whole state North/south (not East/west) and didn't see anything quite as nice as Jackson.
19:31:43 [ScottRoth] Well, it is one of the most popular of tourist towns.
19:32:24 [ScottRoth] I wouldn't mind living there myself.
19:32:34 [PattyE] lots to do in Jackson
19:32:46 [wildboar] I';m not necessarily interested in it being a tourist town, just clean.
19:33:51 [FTL_Ian] Where are you at in NH, Scott?
19:33:59 [PattyE] it's near everything, including the Fryeburg Fair in ME
19:34:02 [ScottRoth] Peterborough
19:34:31 [PattyE] another very nice town
19:34:35 [ScottRoth] It's a wonderful town to raise a family in.
19:34:46 [PattyE] a "calendar" town
19:34:50 [ScottRoth] I've been here going on 30 years now.
19:34:54 [ScottRoth] Yep.
19:35:30 [PattyE] always think of the cover of Yankee Magazine when I hear Peterborough
19:35:33 [ScottRoth] Hi silverfish.
19:35:44 [silverfish] hi there
19:35:46 [ScottRoth] Yeah. It's been on it many times...
19:36:00 [silverfish] i was here earlier, had to bring the kids home
19:36:16 [ScottRoth] Welcome back.
19:36:30 [FTL_Ian] apparenly, there are no talk stations in listening range for you to call, Scott
19:36:35 [PattyE] Tuftonboro a fav too
19:36:36 [silverfish] it appears i missed everyone
19:36:53 [silverfish] well not everyone
19:36:54 [PattyE] JonM still with us?
19:36:57 [silverfish]
19:37:06 [ScottRoth] That's right, Ian. Guess we'll have to keep working on that one.
19:37:07 [JonM] who?
19:37:31 [silverfish] how many in here have already made the move or were in NH to begin with?
19:37:54 [FTL_Ian] I wish I was in NH
19:38:03 [PattyE] < grew up in NH, moved to MA for 15 yrs, now back in NH!
19:38:04 [ScottRoth] I've been in NH almost 30 years.
19:38:19 [ScottRoth] Where are you at, Patty?
19:38:23 [silverfish] i went to college in MA at Babson in Wellesley
19:38:30 [PattyE] Seabrook
19:38:39 [ScottRoth] We need to setup a fund to get you up here, Ian.
19:38:53 [silverfish] in the Peoples Republik of Kullifornia now
19:38:54 [ScottRoth] Ahh..., the coast.
19:38:59 [PattyE] oops...correction... moved to MA for 30 yrs...
19:39:18 [JonM] ian can do the ghostcow walk, and broadcast all the way
19:39:28 [ScottRoth] Ahnuldville
19:39:46 [silverfish] how far did that guy walk?
19:39:53 [ScottRoth] Lots of listeners in between
19:40:08 [silverfish] yeah, well Ahhnold isnt all that much better than Gray Davis
19:40:21 [ScottRoth] I hear that!
19:40:31 [silverfish] and all the fruits and nuts near the coast are horrid out here
19:40:34 [ScottRoth] Just smokes better cigars.
19:41:21 [silverfish] well now they are pursuing the illegal alien drivers licenses
19:41:32 [PattyE] ian, when are you planning on moving to NH?
19:41:37 [ScottRoth] So Ian, what do we need to do to get you on the air up here?
19:41:44 [silverfish] which has all the rush limbaugh/sean hannity clones drooling all over the talk radio
19:41:57 [ScottRoth] How do we get radio stations up here to carry you?
19:42:12 [FTL_Ian] When I start making money on this show
19:42:17 [FTL_Ian] patty.
19:42:34 [ScottRoth] I hear that.
19:43:18 [ScottRoth] Well, my wife and I are excited about all of the Fress Staters coming this way.
19:43:29 [ScottRoth] Free Staters.
19:43:33 [FTL_Ian] Scott: that is a good question
19:43:44 [ScottRoth] It'll just make NH even better.
19:43:46 [FTL_Ian] I have every NH talker in my database now
19:43:56 [FTL_Ian] I have not yet spoken with most of the PDs
19:44:30 [ScottRoth] I would love to approach some radio stations here, but I'm afraid I'm a newbie at this sort of thing.
19:44:34 [FTL_Ian] I have encouraged FSPers to contact their local stations
19:44:42 [ScottRoth] But the heart is willing...
19:44:44 [FTL_Ian] Well, so am I
19:44:46 [FTL_Ian] I'
19:45:01 [FTL_Ian] I'm hesitant because I don't want it to seem too contrived
19:45:10 [ScottRoth] I understand.
19:45:15 [FTL_Ian] But I still think it's best to do this, anyway:
19:45:22 [FTL_Ian] http://radio-locator.com
19:45:27 [ScottRoth] Certainly is needed though.
19:45:37 [ScottRoth] Cool. I'll check it out.
19:45:46 [FTL_Ian] find some local stations ( the categories you want are Talk and News/Talk )
19:46:03 [FTL_Ian] Call them during business hours, ask for the Program Director
19:46:12 [FTL_Ian] (usually available in mornings)
19:46:13 [ScottRoth] Gotcha.
19:46:13 [PattyE] you should come here on vacation and guest host
19:46:31 [ScottRoth] There's an idea...
19:46:57 [FTL_Ian] Tell them your favorite show, Free Talk Live, is now syndicated, and you wish it was on their station 6 days per week
19:47:04 [PattyE] then we can all call the station and demand you as a regular!
19:47:23 [ScottRoth] Oh yeah.
19:47:25 [FTL_Ian] Patty, I think if the FSP stays on board with us for a little while we might just come up there for a Porcfest and broadcast live
19:47:45 [ScottRoth] That would be awesome.
19:47:45 [FTL_Ian] I don't know if we can do it this year
19:47:57 [FTL_Ian] It depends on the financial shape we're in
19:48:04 [FTL_Ian] But I can definately see next year
19:48:17 [FTL_Ian] And of course next year we'll be on many more affiliates.
19:48:18 [PattyE] cool!
19:48:34 [ScottRoth] Any way to do a linkup from here?
19:48:36 [FTL_Ian] Scott, are you clear on the process of calling stations?
19:48:48 [FTL_Ian] Anywhere there's a good phone line
19:48:52 [FTL_Ian] We can do a show
19:48:56 [JonM] oh, flights from FL are dirt cheap to logan
19:48:58 [ScottRoth] Yes, thank you.
19:49:02 [FTL_Ian] So we could do it from the campground
19:49:12 [FTL_Ian] assuming their line isn't old and noisy
19:49:12 [JonM] and ya live in a tent!
19:49:27 [ScottRoth] Wouldn't that be great.
19:49:42 [FTL_Ian] Yes, yes it would
19:50:11 [PattyE] excellent idea
19:50:19 [FTL_Ian] Of course, if the FSP foolishly decides to pull their sponsorship, we'll be very sad. That money is going to be seeding some ads in "Talkers" magazine
19:50:22 [silverfish] time to feed the kiddies
19:50:45 [FTL_Ian] We're using it to advertise the show, meaning more stations, listeners, and potential recruits for the FSP
19:50:53 [ScottRoth] Take care silverfish.
19:51:10 [FTL_Ian] cya silverfish
19:51:13 [PattyE] nite silverfish
19:51:19 [ScottRoth] Is it a print, or electronic mag?
19:51:25 [FTL_Ian] Print
19:51:29 [PattyE] why would the FSP pull sponsorship?
19:51:33 [FTL_Ian] It's THE talk industry publication
19:52:19 [FTL_Ian] I dunno.. radio advertisers get scared, if after one month they haven't gotten results
19:52:21 [ScottRoth] Found it.
19:52:47 [JonM] that would require decision making ability, wouldn't it?
19:52:50 [FTL_Ian] they don't realize that it's a long term process
19:53:03 [ScottRoth] Advertisinf usually is.
19:53:08 [JonM] it could take months of discussion to decide if it isn't working
19:53:09 [ScottRoth] advertising
19:53:16 [ScottRoth] Long day...
19:53:28 [FTL_Ian] That's good JonM, because we're about ready to sign a contract with Talkers
19:53:38 [JonM] besides, you are pulling in some recruits
19:53:58 [FTL_Ian] and we were concerned that we'd have to cover the difference if the FSP gets scared
19:53:59 [PattyE] so we get a list of advertisers and buy stuff from them and let them know where we heard about them?
19:54:01 [JonM] domino effect and all
19:55:07 [JonM] FSP is too decentralized to get all scared, you have the guy who decided to give you the sponsorship to worry about and not much of anyone else
19:55:17 [FTL_Ian] We're convinced that we're the best advertsiing opportunity for the FSP, period. I just hope Robert Hull agrees.
19:55:28 [FTL_Ian] Right, Mr. Hull is the man
19:55:48 [JonM] the more stations that pick you up, the better
19:55:51 [PattyE] brb - gotta go take killer NY-Style cheesecake outta the oven (you hear that JonM?)
19:55:58 [FTL_Ian] Patty: having a list of sponsors to give you would be great
19:56:02 [JonM] you ever plan to charge for the feed, or will it all be based on advertising?
19:56:18 [FTL_Ian] EXACTLY, Jon
19:56:42 [JonM] that was an either or question!
19:57:26 [FTL_Ian] I don't have those plans, but if our bandwidth consumption cranks up, and advertising can't cover it, we'll ask for donations, then maybe create an elite level of archives for $$$. But I love giving archives out free, so I don't see that going away
19:57:42 [FTL_Ian] The exactly was for your earlier line
19:57:48 [PattyE] maybe you could post a list of sponsors in the FSP forums
19:58:21 [FTL_Ian] Patty: we have no sponsors yet, EXCEPT the FSP
19:58:23 [FTL_Ian]
19:58:43 [FTL_Ian] Once we get into enough markets, there is a company standing by who will sell our spots for us
19:58:44 [PattyE] oh...
19:58:53 [FTL_Ian] And we're not too far away from that point...
19:58:58 [JonM] how many is enough?
19:59:22 [JonM] have you talked to WRKO yet?
19:59:33 [FTL_Ian] Depends on the AQH
19:59:45 [FTL_Ian] Average Quarter Hour listener count
19:59:53 [JonM] michael savage just makes me dive for the FM button
20:00:01 [JonM] but I don't know what ratings he pulls in boston
20:00:05 [JonM] you should
20:00:09 [FTL_Ian] He's our biggest competitor
20:00:27 [JonM] what, laura isn't?
20:00:31 [FTL_Ian] I have called RKO several times and haven't yet hit the PD
20:00:45 [FTL_Ian] Savage is EVERYWHERE, and PDs love him.
20:01:09 [PattyE] PDs?
20:01:17 [JonM] program directors
20:01:22 [PattyE] ah
20:01:23 [FTL_Ian] Sorry
20:01:28 [FTL_Ian] Program Directors
20:02:13 [FTL_Ian] That may be an effective call to a Savage affiliate: "I always shut off your station when Savage comes on, if you really want controversy and me as a listener, replace him with FTL"
20:03:06 [FTL_Ian] I won't leave messages though, so a message from a listener to the RKO PD might be useful when I finally connect with him.
20:03:18 [JonM] before or after?
20:03:54 [ScottRoth] Well, time to hit the sack. 4AM comes around real fast. Have a great nite, folks. Thanks for the info Ian. I will see what I can do here.
20:04:04 [FTL_Ian] before
20:04:14 [PattyE] i called WRKO to protest when they first put Savage on, and I wrote a letter to the station
20:04:17 [FTL_Ian] I have a feeling it will be a little while before I get him
20:04:27 [FTL_Ian] Thanks Scott.. I look forward to hearing about your results
20:04:49 [FTL_Ian] WRKO 617-779-3400 PD: Mike Elder
20:04:52 [ScottRoth] I'll let you know. Keep up the good work, my friend.
20:05:18 [PattyE] nite Scott
20:05:32 [ScottRoth] Nite Patty.
20:05:39 [JonM] do you know what the talk ratings in boston are?
20:06:18 [FTL_Ian] I do not
20:09:23 [FTL_Ian] There are 2 Boston PDs that I have spoken with
20:10:49 [FTL_Ian] WKOX 1200 / WXKS 1430 - Dennis Oheron
20:11:05 [FTL_Ian] 781-396-1430
20:11:27 [FTL_Ian] They are "progressive" format. Simulcasting
20:11:46 [FTL_Ian] I'm trying to follow up with him
20:12:18 [FTL_Ian] If he's anything like other "progressive" PDs, he'll tell me he's 100% Air America by contract... but we'll see.
20:12:52 [FTL_Ian] The other station is WTTT 1150 - Jim Carter
20:12:58 [FTL_Ian] Jim describes himself as a Libertarian
20:13:06 [PattyE] http://www.radioandrecords.com/RRRatings/DetailsPage.aspx?MID=35&RY=2004&RQ=4&MP=2&OTHER=2&MN=Boston&MS=MA&MR=9&12P=3888800&UP=12/15/2004%2012:00:00%20AM&SU=CM&BPER=6.1&HPER=6.2&OPER=&NSD=1/18/2005%2012:00:00%20AM&CE=0
20:13:10 [FTL_Ian] But he works for "Salem Communications"
20:13:43 [FTL_Ian] they are "family friendly". He claims to have pitched it to his General Manager and the "Corporate programming guy".
20:14:06 [FTL_Ian] I'm scheduled to follow up with him in a week.
20:14:40 [FTL_Ian] WBZ is on the shitlist. He only wants local shows
20:14:43 [FTL_Ian] Too bad
20:15:27 [FTL_Ian] wow.. that's helpful Patty
20:15:31 [FTL_Ian] Bookmarked
20:17:01 [JonM] you'll be local eventually
20:17:03 [FTL_Ian] If you want to call Jim at WTTT: 617-328-0880
20:17:22 [FTL_Ian] I sure as hell don't want to work in Boston
20:17:28 [JonM] I don't think I've EVER hit 1150 on my radio
20:17:30 [FTL_Ian] I like my home studio
20:17:52 [JonM] brudnoy broadcast from home
20:17:59 [FTL_Ian] Hmm.. apparenly they aren't even rated
20:18:27 [JonM] on the AM dial I pretty much hit 680, and 96.9 on the fm
20:18:34 [JonM] but TKK has laura in that time slot
20:19:29 [FTL_Ian] TKK would be a great affiliate
20:19:38 [FTL_Ian] I have yet to speak with that PD
20:19:45 [FTL_Ian] Paula O Connor
20:20:01 [FTL_Ian] 617-822-9600
20:20:13 [JonM] laura has come to boston quite a few times
20:20:40 [JonM] and frankly, she may be a right winger, but she's cuter than you
20:20:49 [PattyE] she likes the Four Seasons...
20:21:52 [JonM] WRKO's broadcast is like due north and south, I remember I could barely pick them up on 495 in Boxborough which is northwest of boston
20:22:33 [JonM] and apparently jay severin is kicking howie carr's ass in the ratings
20:22:58 [JonM] now jay is SCARY looking, he was made to be a radio host
20:23:55 [PattyE] i'm liking the "Independent Man" lately
20:24:44 [JonM] you have a longer drive than me, I tend to hear commercials
20:26:02 [PattyE] John DiPietro
20:26:06 [JonM] you need to call him up and promote the FSP patty!
20:26:32 [PattyE] yeah, but not good to hear that show... means I'm on the road at 10:00 am... late for work again!
20:27:05 [FTL_Ian] I wonder who is winning between Ingraham and Savage
20:27:08 [FTL_Ian] in Boston
20:27:12 [PattyE] maybe we both could call him up, eh?
20:27:34 [PattyE] hope Laura is winning
20:27:38 [JonM] laura has a better lead in
20:27:52 [JonM] but wrko doesn't subscribe to arbitron
20:28:15 [JonM] though arbitron does track them...
20:28:25 [JonM] they tend to have older listeners
20:28:41 [JonM] http://www.animaux.net/stern/boston.html
20:29:57 [FTL_Ian] Yes. TKK would be the best affiliate in Boston
20:30:10 [FTL_Ian] but as you can imagine, we'll take anything we can get
20:30:16 [JonM] you'd displace laura, and I would be forced to hate you.
20:30:38 [FTL_Ian] Having ANYthing in Boston, would get us the AQH we need to be saleable.
20:30:44 [JonM] last summer she went off the air to re-tool or work on the book or something
20:30:48 [FTL_Ian] Jon, you don't have a chance with her
20:31:12 [PattyE] don't worry ian, he hates me too, because i can buy gas for $1.64/gallon... heh
20:31:18 [JonM] of course not, but she has a much more pleasant voice than the other hosts
20:31:59 [JonM] wrko used to have a larger audience, they were just old folks, don't know if that's still the case
20:32:38 [JonM] and howie is kinda libertarian...kinda
20:32:45 [FTL_Ian] To each his own, I find her a bit grating
20:33:00 [JonM] as compared to savage?
20:33:17 [FTL_Ian] I just dislike him
20:33:55 [FTL_Ian] It's not fair to compare a woman's voice to a man's
20:34:08 [FTL_Ian] Compared to other women, Ingraham is grating
20:34:22 [JonM] savage is just angry
20:34:56 [PattyE] Laura is a female Imus
20:35:35 [PattyE] agree - savage is a very angry man
20:36:06 [JonM] the daily show keeps playing a clip of a city councilman winging something at a tv reporter's back
20:36:46 [FTL_Ian] Laura is politically the Female Rush
20:37:54 [JonM] speaking of someone who should be a libertarian by now
20:38:07 [JonM] the drug thing shoulda pushed ya over the edge rush!
20:38:17 [FTL_Ian] He's a coward
20:38:22 [FTL_Ian] Just like the rest of them
20:38:53 [JonM] rush is good at what he does
20:39:45 [FTL_Ian] He absolutely is
20:40:13 [JonM] I listened to a lot of air america when I was in florida
20:40:18 [JonM] they're not.
20:40:26 [FTL_Ian] If he has principles, he's a coward. IF the doesn't, he's ignorant.
20:40:37 [FTL_Ian] They are not cowards?
20:40:48 [FTL_Ian] Or not good?
20:41:08 [PattyE] or not american?
20:41:18 [JonM] not very good at what they do
20:41:36 [FTL_Ian] I wish them much failure. Because when the "majority report" tanks, then FTL will be right there waiting.
20:42:23 [JonM] well, eventually they'll run out of things to whine about
20:42:45 [FTL_Ian] Someone said, "I've got a great idea! Let's do liberal talk!"... then they realized there really aren't too many REAL talk hosts to choose from, so they threw some big name socialists behind mics.
20:42:55 [FTL_Ian] I haven't heard any of it, and don't want to
20:43:25 [JonM] fraken is a smart guy, does some funny bits, but seems a bit disconnected from reality
20:44:03 [JonM] after reading bias and arrogance, now I see why
20:44:05 [FTL_Ian] http://www.airamericaradio.com/shows/majorityreport/
20:44:11 [JonM] in his world, everyone really does think that way
20:44:28 [FTL_Ian] Look at that jackass with the bowtie. If that didn't SCREAM "boring", read the show description!
20:45:26 [JonM] when did jeanane become blonde?!?!
20:45:36 [JonM] learn something new every day
20:45:41 [PattyE] they look like a SNL skit
20:45:46 [FTL_Ian] By the end of this year I want Savage to know his days are numbered.
20:46:27 [PattyE] they might be numbered anyway... his blood pressure must be sky high
20:46:28 [FTL_Ian] These goofs on AA are just destined to fail.. what idiot programs this network?!
20:46:31 [FTL_Ian] "Singer and songwriter, Nellie McKay. She will talk about various forces that influenced the lyrics in her critically acclaimed debut CD, Get Away From Me."
20:46:34 [FTL_Ian] WHO CARES!
20:46:44 [JonM] someone with deep pockets if I recall
20:48:07 [JonM] I did hear the guy who wrote grandma got run over by a reindeer on air america
20:48:27 [PattyE] whatever you do... DON'T click on the "honeymooning in the Carribbean" link! ewww
20:48:28 [JonM] he was amusing, he's a vet, people kept calling in asking about their pets
20:50:46 [JonM] did you watch Tilt patty?
20:51:12 [PattyE] only a few minutes of it...
20:51:45 [PattyE] while some guy was getting beat up in an alley
20:51:54 [JonM] that was the end
20:52:00 [PattyE] yep
20:52:05 [PattyE] was it any good?
20:52:08 [JonM] its on...many more times
20:52:32 [JonM] why, in 8 minutes in fact!
20:52:39 [PattyE] i was busy creating the perfect cheesecake
20:52:56 [JonM] what of pie?
20:53:27 [PattyE] pie is for others... cheesecake is for...
20:53:39 [JonM] what? NO PIE?
20:53:45 [PattyE] lunch tomorrow!
20:54:10 [PattyE] what's wrong with a PERFECT ATK NY STYLE cheesecake????
20:54:28 [PattyE] the best one I have ever made... btw
20:54:59 [FTL_Ian] Alright, I'm out
20:55:07 [FTL_Ian] THanks for your help, guys
20:55:09 [FTL_Ian] good nite
20:55:10 [JonM] PIE
20:55:14 [JonM] night
20:55:32 [PattyE] night ian, great to chat with you
20:55:48 [PattyE] pie. pie. pie. pie. pie. CHEESECAKE.
20:57:05 [JonM] custard pie
20:57:21 [PattyE] you should make one!
20:57:41 [JonM] some day
20:57:47 [PattyE] how about apple pie for sunday?
20:57:51 [JonM] later
20:57:54 [PattyE] FSP Pie
20:58:17 [JonM] you're gonna make a porc topped pie?
20:58:19 [PattyE] if i can remember how to make a pastry porcupine...
20:58:25 [PattyE] lol
20:58:38 [PattyE] sure
20:59:17 [JonM] well then.
20:59:41 [PattyE] if reporters are there it may get it
20:59:56 [PattyE] it's picture in the paper
21:00:16 [PattyE] but how will i ever get home...
21:00:37 [JonM] go to work after
21:00:42 [JonM] then you'll be fine
21:00:55 [PattyE] well, guess I'll go give Tilt a try... while my perfect cheesecake is cooling
21:01:08 [JonM] besides, 495 is probably a better route to seabrook
21:01:27 [PattyE] is the best way
21:01:48 [PattyE] 111 is way too north
21:02:41 [PattyE] did you see the state of the state speech tonight?
21:02:44 [JonM] then you're all set
21:03:19 [JonM] nope
21:03:55 [PattyE] first time in a long time that I have watched it from another state
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